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H & M - The Cat, The Barber and the Argyll Pheasant Pluckers

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TheMustressMhor · 22/01/2020 17:13

I hope I've got what everyone wants in the title of this, the twelfth thread in the series.

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GracefulHippo · 23/01/2020 19:10

I saw that re the Queen. I really hope she is well. I think this country needs her.

I am very sorry if I caused offence by laughing at the cat pictures. There was some bad comments when the non-cat thread was started, no doubt typed in anger without thought. I found the policing by the non-cat OP and the constant telling off for discussing serious health issues and light hearted cat discussions very annoying - and almost cruel. I thought the response here was very measured. After that I couldn’t help laughing at the cat pictures. And I did feel bad - sorry MaisWee!

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 23/01/2020 19:10

She's smiling because she's happy!

Ok. Let's say this is true. She's just a happy mum going for a stroll. The backdrop of this walk is her husband stepping away from everything he's known in his life. How is she so serene?

I'm putting myself in her shoes (as much as anyone can) when I ask this. I cannot remember me ever walking around with a serene smile on my face anytime someone I love dearly is having a horrible time, let alone a lover.

And you have to look past the coincidence of no shots when H around, and then (perhaps because there's no shots) posting unnecessary retrospective pictures to Insta. Why do this?

Do you want more privacy and peace and solitude or not?

Encyclo · 23/01/2020 19:11

My god, they sound psychotic! Why on earth is MM looking so happy to see them and why isn't her security doing anything??

I don't think she CAN see them. They're long lens pics.

Encyclo · 23/01/2020 19:12

Ugh, bold fail

Encyclo · 23/01/2020 19:15

Do you want more privacy and peace and solitude or not?

Well, I'm sure they don't want to stay holed up in that big house 24/7. Nothing wrong with going for a walk in a park surely. It's not like she rocked up to the SAGs

Froq · 23/01/2020 19:16

That sounds completely plausible to me.
In fact that's a pap trick isn't it?

What? From a bush?

If you, “and international protected person”, were out walking with your baby son, royalty, and a man called your name from a bush, would you smile?

Or would you drop back behind the protection officers and turn away?

katiegoestoaldi · 23/01/2020 19:17

She's looking right in to the camera though Confused

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 23/01/2020 19:19

This is probably belated now with how fast these threads move but I think the nose thing could be in reference to this post MM made Father’s Day 2016?
I agree.
I wonder what happened after Fathers' Day 2016? She hadn't met H then had she? That was a lovely message to her dad. He must be so confused if he isn't aware of any major falling out between then and now (apart from the set-up photos).

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 23/01/2020 19:26

Or would you drop back behind the protection officers and turn away?

Indeed. There are procedures in place for just such eventualities and there will have been multiple briefings on how the protected person should react and what the close protection officers would do. I know this as my ex BF used to work in close protection in the forces.

These were pap shots. I'd stake my meagre bank account contents on it.

rockingchaircandle · 23/01/2020 19:26

@TheMustressMhor

I don't much like prose which is sprinkled with exclamation marks.

Oh, no! Don't we use exclamation marks?!!Blush

What day do we wear pink?!Wink

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 23/01/2020 19:26

Sorry these were arranged pap shots.

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 23/01/2020 19:28

I've just read that H&M met on a blind date in July 2016. Fathers' Day in the US is on 3rd Sunday in June so Meghan met Harry very shortly after that lovely post about her dad.

Encyclo · 23/01/2020 19:29

It's a natural reaction to look up and smile when you're name is called. No matter who you are.

PerfPower · 23/01/2020 19:30

Is this what 'sealioning' is?

rockingchaircandle · 23/01/2020 19:30

It could be she is happy because he's coming out to see her though? The closing of a difficult chapter. Definitely seems like they used a long range lens. They probably weren't wearing press vests. She could have been smiling at what she thought was just another dog walker. If she's up to this all the time when Harry is away why is she bad at it?

Encyclo · 23/01/2020 19:30

Sorry these were arranged pap shots.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that is true.

7Worfs · 23/01/2020 19:33

@rockingchaircandle By all means bring your opinions on how Meghan is running a pap gauntlet every time she leaves the house, just stop preaching - our bitchy souls don’t need salvation. Wink

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 23/01/2020 19:34

I'm sorry but I honestly don't think it is a natural reaction. Not for very famous people plus she is with her child and her dogs so pretty vulnerable and weighed down by them. No easy escape. She can't run. Someone yells her name and she carries on strolling along without a care in the world and gives a beaming grin? I wouldn't, I know I wouldn't. Her security officers do nothing. They don't step toward to assess the threat. One remains on his phone. Come on!

7Worfs · 23/01/2020 19:37

There is plenty of information available to apply some critical thinking, compare to past knowledge and experiences, and reach a conclusion.
I don’t need 100% information to evaluate risk and options, and proceed with a decision. In fact, we can never have 100% of it, even about situations in our own lives.

rockingchaircandle · 23/01/2020 19:38

@7Worfs

@7Worfs
Label my opinions however you need to. Seems a bit dismissive, but maybe a bit close to the bone for you!

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 23/01/2020 19:39

I'm referring to the publicity, ie posting to insta not the walk encyclo

And what about the coincidence of no paps when H around?

She also look supremely delighted when they were at Canada House.

I'm not convinced that a person would be so happy knowing what those actions entail for their husband. I believe that even if most people were privately happy, they'd make an attempt to show concern.

And also not make impromptu visits to women's shelters whilst wanting privacy and posting retrospective pics when your SIL is trending.

There's a lot of coincidences. And only so much of it can be explained away as such (imo)

katiegoestoaldi · 23/01/2020 19:39

So she smiled and then kept on smiling?

Ah just another dog walker with a long lens camera, nothing strange about that at all

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 23/01/2020 19:40

You have absolutely no way of knowing that is true

I worked for a very famous person. I can't say who as I signed a NDA. Part of my job was liaising with their security team in order to do my job. I couldn't do it without their help. I spoke to them every day and had cause to visit their offices within the home. I have an ex who was trained in close protection. I used to be in the forces myself and would guard various secure installations and the staff within, complete with rifle. You're right I can't know but I can make a very educated guess.

Encyclo · 23/01/2020 19:41

Yes I believe she looked up and smiled, of course I do.

She's probably determined not to appear cross or to glare at anyone to avoid any "Grumpy Meg" headlines.

I really feel for her actually. Can't even smile without being accused of booking a pap walk.

rockingchaircandle · 23/01/2020 19:44

@WendyMoiraAngelaDarling

I'm sorry but I honestly don't think it is a natural reaction.

It could be she's just an unnatural woman with unnatural reactions. With shit security.

Or she's arranged the photos and forgotten and posed for them.

But, maybe this assumption isn't true:
Someone yells her name
It could be they didn't yell her name. They disguised themselves/ were at a distance/ presented themselves as non threatening. Couldn't it?