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Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan?

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DaveCoaches · 17/01/2020 13:40

Just seeing if there’s any interest. I think they have their faults but I think this may turn out to be a good thing long term. Anyone want to join in?

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meercat23 · 20/02/2020 14:22

I didn't find the word insulting but I did think it jarred a little along with the suggestion that they would retain full royal status while stepping back and moving towards financial independence. It may have just have been the wording and those words may well not have been written by H&M themselves but it did have a flavour of cake and eat it and in my view this is why some people have been annoyed.

LaurieMarlow · 20/02/2020 14:24

the suggestion that they would retain full royal status

Did they state that? What I remember is their intention to step back as senior royals.

TheNavigator · 20/02/2020 14:26

I never got the big fuss about the word 'collaborate' - on the thread that must not be named, posters are making themselves ill with rage over it. I don't want to prod that beast, but I will say here that I really don't see what the problem is. It is just a version of 'work with' and seems perfectly polite to me.

BonnesVacances · 20/02/2020 14:29

I agree Navigator. Sometimes I think I read a completely different statement.

meercat23 · 20/02/2020 14:33

I suppose it depends on exactly what was meant by @stepping back'. Prince Harry's speech at the Sentebale event indicated that the interim arrangements that had been agreed were not what they had hoped for.

A big part of the problem with all of this is that only the people who are directly involved know what was actually said, what was meant, what was intended. Everyone else is left to come to their own interpretations. Some of those will be less positive than others. In the end we will all just have to wait and see how it all turns out.

LaurieMarlow · 20/02/2020 14:36

the suggestion that they would retain full royal status

I just looked it up and I can’t see any clear reference to this whatsoever. They state their intention to ‘step back’ as senior royals.

Prince Harry's speech at the Sentebale event indicated that the interim arrangements that had been agreed were not what they had hoped for.

You were talking about their original statement though. Not what was said afterwards.

I’m sure if I look that up I’ll find it equally unobjectionable.

FramboiseRoyale · 20/02/2020 14:39

Meghan and Harry definitely insulted the Queen when they said they would "collaborate" with her.

There is nothing wrong with the word. It means work with. It would be insulting, I supposed for a medieval monarch who believes in the divine right of kings, but certainly not insulting in the context of a constitutional monarchy.

Roussette · 20/02/2020 14:44

I've heard the word used in a work context more than once. Is it insulting? Nope!

Some people will find fault with anything. Especially H&M. Oh my, she crossed her legs wrong, she ate an avocado, she twitches her jacket or whatever... it's all pathetic puerile nitpicking AFAIC

meercat23 · 20/02/2020 14:44

LaurieMarlow The point about referring to the Sentebale speech was because, in my view (if that is allowed) it could be seen as throwing some light on what the expectations were in the original IG post.

FramboiseRoyale · 20/02/2020 14:45

Puerile. Exactly that.

LaurieMarlow · 20/02/2020 14:45

Coat flicking

Roussette · 20/02/2020 14:46

I got it wrong and called it jacket twitching! Ooops! Either way it's the biggest nothingness of nothing. IMO.

drina27 · 20/02/2020 14:47

One does not collaborate with the monarch. It’s ridiculous.

LaurieMarlow · 20/02/2020 14:52

The point about referring to the Sentebale speech was because, in my view (if that is allowed) it could be seen as throwing some light on what the expectations were in the original IG post.

Okay, so god help me I looked it up.

He said he hoped to 'continue to serve' the queen/commonwealth/co. but without public funding. That sounds like a very positive thing to be and not at all analogous to wanting to 'retain full royal status' especially as in a previous statement they'd specifically said they'd be stepping back as senior royals.

So yes, I very much feel like i'm reading different statements to you.

LaurieMarlow · 20/02/2020 14:53

Ooops! Either way it's the biggest nothingness of nothing. IMO.

Both terms equally valid.

Tearing someone apart for it is batshit beyond all reason though.

Roussette · 20/02/2020 14:54

Who is this 'one' you are talking about drina. In all seriousness, collaborate means to work with. To be hung drawn and quartered over a word is pathetic

Samcro · 20/02/2020 15:05

@TheMustressMhor I am sure the queen is fine with it all.
even if not, they do not deserve the hate they are getting, just for doing what is right for their family.

DivinationDandy · 20/02/2020 17:49

Hung drawn and quartered over a word

Whoa there @Roussette with the hyperbole

For thread that’s intended to be happy about H&M, a few of you do seem to focus much of your posts on criticising and seething about what other MNers write. Isn’t that what the Reddit sub-thread is for?

Samcro · 20/02/2020 18:11

its called debate. People can have differing views. People can say they don't have a problem with a word. This is not a thread for hate,
Itssupposed to be for people who support H&Ms decision.

meercat23 · 20/02/2020 18:16

By the same token, having a problem with a word is not hate. It's called debate.

SenecaFallsRedux · 20/02/2020 18:16

One does not collaborate with the monarch. It’s ridiculous.

Maybe in 1120. I think it's acceptable in the 21st century.

Roussette · 20/02/2020 18:43

I suppose DDandy by the nature of this being a positive H&M thread, we can't help but bat away the ridiculous negativity especially when someone comes on here talking about 'collaborating' when it was just a word in a press statement of more than six weeks ago!

I do feel sorry for them when it comes to the next wedding of is it Beatrice, PA's daughter. They are already being criticised in the press for any decision by them of not attending, but my goodness they'll be slated if they do come too.

DivinationDandy · 20/02/2020 18:46

Sure, debate over a word with anyone who says they don’t like it on this thread. It’s churlish though to use it as a springboard for mocking other posters or another thread. To repeat, that’s what the Reddit sub is for.

DivinationDandy · 20/02/2020 18:50

I agree with you Roussette about them when it comes to Bea’s wedding, and was going to say so on another thread. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

I feel more sorry I suppose (to the extent that I actually feel anything) for Bea, who will have the Sussex speculation and her father overshadowing here wedding.

Samcro · 20/02/2020 18:57

I havnt seen it mentioned on another thread, so don't get that.
I saw it mentioned on here.
So really don't know what youron about @DivinationDandy

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