Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan?

[DaveCoaches]

Just seeing if there’s any interest. I think they have their faults but I think this may turn out to be a good thing long term. Anyone want to join in?

That’s fine Samcro
You don’t have to get what I’m on about

Sure, debate over a word with anyone who says they don’t like it on this thread. It’s churlish though to use it as a springboard for mocking other posters or another thread. To repeat, that’s what the Reddit sub is for

I'm honestly saying this in a nice way believe me, but I don't know what your point is. Particularly the mocking of another poster?? If I did that, I don't know where!

I feel more sorry I suppose (to the extent that I actually feel anything) for Bea, who will have the Sussex speculation and her father overshadowing here wedding

Agree. The biggest can of worms ever. I would've thought they wanted a quiet private affair given the worms, but who knows whether it will be.

I love a Royal Wedding as much as then next woman, but I really hope Beatrice keeps it a private affair.

Nothing to do with H&M, and absolutely nothing against Beatrice, I just don't think I can bear to watch Andrew and Fergie carry on as though it's business as usual.

God I despise them both.

DivinationDandy

That’s fine Samcro
You don’t have to get what I’m on about smile

😁

I feel sorry for bea, what ever happens her dad will over shadow her day

The quieter they keep Beatrice’s wedding, the better for all concerned.

I still think that the use of the word "collaborate" was extremely ill-judged.

HM Queen was quick to deal with this. I do not think she was at all impressed by H and M's actions.

I'm still perplexed about objections to the word "collaborate." It literally means "to work (root is labor) together." The RF calls itself the Firm. It would seem to me that collaboration is a core concept, especially considering that other members of the RF were mentioned in the context of collaboration as well.

As Harry said, his aim is the 'serve' the Queen.

She's the boss and head of everything. No-one is on a par with her to collaborate (except Duke of Ed in domestic matters)

It's a gaffe.

And not one that PH made when speaking solo.

As they are making a cleaner break than perhaps originally intended, it all seems rather moot now.

A half dozen engagements 28/02-9/03 and that's it, so whatever verb you put on now hypothetical continued duties, they're over. Though I think end of month is formal end, and first day in new life is 1 April (chosen one assumes for tax reasons, not cultural ones)

I just find it amazing that one word used in a statement 7 weeks ago is used to beat them round the head with all this time later. But if that's all there is to complain about, that is good.

I doubt HM Queen is dwelling on a word, not sure why anyone else is!

it shows that people will take anything they say and do and use it against them.

Whose beating them round the head with it Rousette? You’ve had one poster say something about it here, with one or two others agreeing. Hardly beating round the head.

My point earlier was that you were being hyperbolic by saying she was hung, drawn and quartered. Another poster or two sneered at posters on the other thread discussing the wording and did so in derogatory terms. Discussing another thread is against MNHQ rules, which you’ve been told, but still posters on this thread are getting the digs in.

Meanwhile on Reddit, there are several threads making nasty comments about posters from the long-running Harry & Meghan posts. There’s a crossover of posters or lurkers between there and this thread.

It does beg the question of what a few of you are most happy about - Harry & Meghan’s new opportunity or the opportunity to collectively sneer at other posters.

My point earlier was that you were being hyperbolic by saying she was hung, drawn and quartered
Yes of course I am exaggerating. It's a drop in the ocean compared to the prolific threads elsewhere and as I'm not allowed to discuss other threads I'll just leave that there and would appreciate you doing that also.

Threads meander, no one owns them. You can't come on here saying this is meant to be a happy thread about H&M and you are posting off the point. If you read back this thread, there is a lot of happiness about them.... spread the lurrrrve...

I'm not on Reddit.

Yes threads do ‘meander’. Do you know her word means? It certainly doesn’t mean stay in a certain, targeted direction for at least a third of the course.

Thank you for your knowledge DDandy but yes I do know the meaning of the word 'meander' hence my use of it. Back atcha...

Ok in the interests of taking this thread in a more fruitful direction, I’m really pleased that they’ve been left in peace for a bit and are hopefully enjoying some family time together.

And on the subject of words, in answer to at least one poster including Seneca being perplexed about why people object to the word ‘collaborate’ and helpfully explaining what it means:

I found the use of the word "collaborate" funny rather than insulting or offensive. It clanged. It was tone deaf for that context.

I'm aware the word means to 'work with'.

But on paper if not also in practice, the working royals work for the Queen, not with the Queen.

'Collaborating' strongly implies an equality in the partnership. It also implies an agreement by both parties. According to Buckingham Palace's statement, such agreement with the Queen hadn't been reached.

Seneca’s right the family call themselves a Firm. It’s a great analogy. Anyone who has worked at a traditional firm, an accounting one or law firm for example, knows that you don’t say you’re “collaborating with the Managing Partner”.

I think the reason that other threads have been mentioned on this one is because of the title

Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for H&M ?

it rather invites people to remark on the numbers of critical threads .

Can we drop 'collaborate' discussion please ? I think it's been done to death.

Ok in the interests of taking this thread in a more fruitful direction, I’m really pleased that they’ve been left in peace for a bit and are hopefully enjoying some family time together

Yes absolutely, although the rags over here don't seem to be letting up. It's quite amusing because papers like the Express are really scraping the barrel with their stories, or should I say non-stories.

y y to this LaurieMarlow

I’m really pleased that they’ve been left in peace for a bit and are hopefully enjoying some family time together.

Roussette Meander’ was not the right word to use here when there’s been frequent sneering references to the ‘other’ threads. HTH.

it rather invites people to remark on the numbers of critical threads .

Pereditio It ‘invites’ people to only if they want to deliberately flout MN rules and make it a thread about other threads...

Ok I’ve said my piece now.

Ok I’ve said my piece now

Phew. That's welcome! This thread has meandered AFAIC. There may be many more words I use that irritate you in the future, so brace yourself! I use lots of them lol. HTH you too Could you drop 'collaborate' and 'meander' now please? It's getting tedious.

Let's move on from it.

Oh seems I wasn’t ready to drop it

‘Meander’ means to wander vaguely with no real direction. There’s been a sub-direction throughout from pages 1-33 and it’s been south-facing the other threads. Just check the number of deletions in the last few days on this thread. (And yes, there’s been deletions elsewhere too.)

Seneca explained what collaborate meant in the early hours of this morning after your already did so, she said she was perplexed about why others’ had an issue with it, I explained in under 10 hours from her post. But you want to drop it now you’ve been picked up on what were you we’re missing. Sure.

DivinationDandy

And on the subject of words, in answer to at least one poster including Seneca being perplexed about why people object to the word ‘collaborate’ and helpfully explaining what it means:

I found the use of the word "collaborate" funny rather than insulting or offensive. It clanged. It was tone deaf for that context.

I'm aware the word means to 'work with'.

But on paper if not also in practice, the working royals work for the Queen, not with the Queen.

'Collaborating' strongly implies an equality in the partnership. It also implies an agreement by both parties. According to Buckingham Palace's statement, such agreement with the Queen hadn't been reached.

Seneca’s right the family call themselves a Firm. It’s a great analogy. Anyone who has worked at a traditional firm, an accounting one or law firm for example, knows that you don’t say you’re “collaborating with the Managing Partner”.

Excellent post and not in the least disingenuous, unlike others that have tried to defend “collaborate”. This is a particularly good analogy:
“Anyone who has worked at a traditional firm, an accounting one or law firm for example, knows that you don’t say you’re “collaborating with the Managing Partner”.”

“On what you were missing”. Typing on phone - badly.