Ashes to Ashes Season 3

[Anniek]

I am so excited I am literally sitting here bouncing after watching the 2nd trailer

It's OK I know I'm sad, especially as I really want the "Gene says relax" T-Shirt

Ok I'm showing my geekiness but when Gene moved to the Met he got a new number.

If he's an angel she's not going to get to shag him is she?

Ahhhh, you are right!

Still too skinny though...

ilas maybe he's an naughty angel......

My godson reckons the 6-6-20 might also be a bible reference but I'm not sure. This is 6-6-20 in the bible:

"When the trumpets sounded, the people shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the people gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so every man charged straight in, and they took the city." I know everything seems to be starting to crumble (someone else mentioned that earlier) but apart from that...

It must be a nightmare for the scriptwriters to have to try to tie everything up because I bet they didn't have a clear idea of where all this would go whe they started writing it...

I haven't watched Friday's again yet but there wasn't any LoM music with Chris was there? Or did I miss it? Is that because Chris may have gone over to Keats?

Also, do you think that Nelson, the barman, might be God? Or St Peter?

The dead policeman must be someone significant, so to my mind Gene is the best candidate. Someone said he was too skinny, but that doesn't mean it's not Gene - could well have been slim in his younger years before being trapped in a chink in the time vortex with endless supplies of beer/wine/pork pies.

I wondered whether the dead policemen is a reference back to that copper Alex killed in the last series - the guy whose body was cased in concrete? (Alex did kill him, didn't she?)

Ooooh, edam, do you think Alex could be on her way to hell then? Or, does it not count if she was already in the afterlife/limbo? My head will start to hurt soon!

No idea but it's an interesting thought...

Just reading the letters from Keats on the BBC Ashes site (must get a life) and have spotted that Ray's middle name is Milton. John Milton did write "Paradise Lost/Regained" didn't he? Or am I taking the poetry thing too far?!

Hadn't seen the letters (here they are), and it's interesting that they're addressed to Chief Superintendant Nicholas Callaghan, or 'Nick'!

Ah, Old Nick... Can't believe I missed that one!

thederkinsdame I was just thinking that the other day - firstly why would Gene move (he seemed pretty welded to Manchester) and then why would he be allowed to bring Ray and Chris? Mind you, I know nothing about police procedure so it might be perfectly normal. I just wouldn't have thought London was lacking in good coppers.

Am I alone in liking Keats? I mean, I don't like like him, but I'm very intrigued by him (and not in an altogether negative way).

Also, the hospital visions have vanished, have they not? Or have I not being paying proper attention? In LOM and the early series of A2A Sam and Alex got lots of snippets of what was happening in the hospital. I can't remember the last time this happened with Alex.

Did anyone else thing that Shaz was being deliberately obstructive when Alex asked her about the stars? She seemed to come over a bit air-heady.

BelleDame - my thought exactly!

Calm - know what you mean about Shaz being deliberately vague.

Calm I know what you mean, I know he might be evil but as evil goes he's not that bad.

she did seem vague

but am liking the paradise lost / letas / nick / fact that letter refers to 30 pieces of silver

interesting

And, I've joined the Railway Arms thing but I have to say that I think our conversation is more cerebral!

I thought Shaz was vague as she felt that she was hearing/seeing things which made her feel like she was losing grip.

Alex didn't shoot or murder that copper though- it was the old Summers who shot the young Summers and put the gun in Alex's hand, wasn't it? She did kick the body into the concrete though.

Oooh Reality, you're right!

There's definitely a "Molly" and something else that I can't make out. And I heard the "souls" too.

Aaahh, what does it all mean??? And what am I going to waste time on do when it's finished????

I'm coming round to the theory that it's a dead Gene who was shot as a young copper and dug up in 2008.

It irritates me though that they don't seem to have cast an actor who looks even remotely like Philip Glenister.

And wouldn't Alex recognise a younger version of Gene? he can't have looked that different, surely?

Ah, OK, I couldn't remember - just got a scene of Alex and concrete in my head!

I think Gene is the gatekeeper of heaven and Keats of hell as has been mooted before. I reckon that the young, dead copper may have been a mistake from gene's younger days and could be the something from Gene's past that keats keeps bringing up as the thing they will hate him for. The bit where keats was cradling a dying Louise was seriously spooky. Esp the bit where he stops her from saying her final words.

I also wonder whether Alex is dead and they are fighting over her - will she go to heaven or hell, as there are no sightings of Molly in this series and as someone has mentioned there are also no hospital scenes.

Sometimes I watch it and think I am overcomplicating it all LOL

I am loving this series, although as the plot thickens I'm getting more confused! (thank goodness for this thread!)

Am I barking up the wrong tree thinking the Quattro's number plate is significant?

Its JLY 75IV. It just seems to keep being prominently featured during chases etc.

I am guessing it's July '75 but not sure about the IV (4)?

Any ideas