The Crash - Netflix

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Anyone watched this?

I feel like her parents made excuses for everything she did - felt like she was used to getting everything she wanted.

Just watched the channel 4 documentary Killer Cases tonight too. She is caught on a policeman’s body camera in the hospital talking to her mum in a gibberish language (the prosecutor likened it to pig Latin). When translated apparently she said to her “can we just tell the police I had a seizure” 😡

So yes she may have had a condition but she absolutely knew what she was doing and deserves to rot in prison

I am definitely more forgiving of bad behaviour in a young person than an older one. That said her behaviour was unforgivable. The conversation with the mum about being in the newspaper. Like the murders were their claim to fame. What is wrong with them?

I just don't understand how she got out of that car without any serious injuries?! That's insane. The car was split in 2 and she drove at a brick wall at 100 miles per hour 😱

I was confused as to why they drove home at 5am, despite being at their friends for a “sleepover”. Mackenzie had fallen asleep at 3am on the couch, so they must have woken her up to drive them home. Perhaps that contributed to her rage?

I agree with previous posters it seems like she had a sudden, mad, reaction and went too far. Murder but not pre planned as such.

How did they translate it if it was pure gibberish?

She did have serious injuries broken femur, broken ribs, broken arm, lacerated liver & kidney and damage to her carotid arteries to name a few. She was medavacd to the hospital and had numerous surgeries.

Funny there was no mention of a head injury that would have led to a lack of memory.

I read that Davion was found on top of Dom , he was probably the one that moved the car into neutral to try to stop it. Hence why he would have removed his seatbelt.

Dom had loads of money because he was a drug dealer. Let’s face it there was no discussion about a job was there? Poor Davion caught up in that nightmare on that day!

Yes. I saw that and also thought it made her sound like the manipulative psycho she really is. What a weird way to speak!

She had checked the route out a couple of weeks prior. Also premeditation doesn’t have to be weeks it can be minutes in the US

What’s the evidence that she checked the route out? She may have driven that route two weeks earlier as that’s the route to her boyfriends house, or a common route to take in her area.

I agree. And her awful mother must have had a hand in teaching her that and it wasn't something she just picked up with her friends, because otherwise how would her mother know what she was saying.

A lot of blame should be laid a door of her parents. Her father almost encouraging her to smoke marijuana, allowing her to go and live with her boyfriend despite being very young, she was obviously completely out of control. The parents have no perception of how awfully they came across in the documentary.

And how she behaved at school, bullying others, disrupting lessons, with obviously no pushback from her parents who seemed to think she could do no wrong

In all of her Instagram/Tiktok videos of her driving around while smoking weed - and her mother at least followed her on Instagram and even liked some of them - Mackenzie is never wearing a seatbelt. Never.

She was wearing one when the crash happened, on deserted roads at 5.30 am. Strange, that.

I can’t believe he’s a teacher!!!!! That’s crazy. He must know that most teens don’t swear at teachers.

The route she took is described as being an off the beaten path industrial area that she would not normally take. The police say her phone pinged in this exact area in the days prior to the crash suggesting she had scoped out the area.
I did wonder if they were meeting someone for drugs though which would also explain being in the area at that time. But there is no evidence to suggest that.
One thing I don't understand is the suggestion that she got into a fit of rage because Dom was breaking up with her. Surely he wouldn't have done this with Darius in the car?

The whole relationship seemed quite toxic though.

I think the parents and the friend,who spoke with Netflix but refused to speak with the police,give an indication of the type of personality Mackenzie is.

Also on the Mean Girls Murders documentary she is photographed at a concert the weekend after being discharged from hospital.
Her delighted response,posted from her hospital bed, at being offered a modeling job.
The corpse costume at Halloween.
There was no signs whatsoever of remorse for what happened. She just seemed to continue on with her life as if nothing happened.

But I have my doubts that she would have been found guilty if it had been a jury trial. I think there may have been enough doubt for a jury to be unsure of a guilty verdict and I am surprised she didn't opt for a jury trial.

Just finished it. Shes as guilty as sin and her parents are vile.

I missed the part about it being in the papers/Kim Kardashian can anyone tell me what she said?

I agree. Watched it last night. The sister came across so incredibly well, what a smart young woman. Also her father. Well spoken.

Maybe that is why they had no belts on, because they tried to grab her wheel.

Yes. There was evidence that the gearstick was shifted from drive to neutral then back to drive.

The prosecutors believed this shows the boys tried to stop her. The fact that it was put back into drive shows deliberate intent on her part.

This could also explain why the body of the boy in the back ended up on top of the boy in the passenger seat.

It’s gypsy language (called something else obviously). They spoke it on the prison calls too.

I wonder if this is what she spoke when the police found her in the car wreck, they said on the way to the ambulance she kept speaking in some nonsense sentences that noone could understand..?

Wow the mum fucked up with her statement.

I also think the social media stuff was ridiculous. That should not have been allowed to influence anyone on length of sentence.
no evidence of what was happening - they could have been racing, rowing, goading I think manslaughter would have made more sense.

I doubt it influenced the judge though, but who knows. It was pretty annoying that it was presented as evidence.

As has been said many times on this thread, recklessness is enough for murder - there does not have to be intent to kill. Driving a car at 100 miles per hour into a brick wall is at least (!!!) extremely reckless.

Sorry what do you mean by gypsy language called something else? I don't understand!

I think this posters means Romany, I don't speak it so I don't know, but I saw it mentioned on Instagram.
I watched something else earlier and her and her mum were laughing on a phone call from jail because "the story has made it to England, yeah Britain, the daily mail, maybe Kim Kardashian will be in touch" and something from the mum like "it's saves me a phone call, I was gonna call them anyway"