Should I marry a murderer? Netflix

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Has anyone watched this? I have just finished it. Honestly I feel mixed about Caroline. Don’t want to say too much in case others haven’t finished it.

I remember the story being reported but didn’t know how much else went on in the lead up to the trial.

@Victoriawould24 'I can’t remember the BBC documentary exactly but I
sure they insinuated that even his (Tony’s) family thought he was taking huge risks and his bike plan was a bit ill advised and they were already very worried before the accident.'

Yes, I was loath to mention the cyclist as it isn't relevant but the circumstances that night were strange. 11pm, pouring with rain, he was soaked and in a state, they offered a room but he decided to cycle though the night on a 'charity' cycle ride.
There are more questions than answers.
I think the pub put up with the brothers' obnoxious behaviour because they put all the Stalking weekend clients their way.
A strange community.

@yesgood point they probably depended on them to stay afloat.

I agree.

It’s one thing to be stubborn, but Tony Parson’s determination to continue cycling - under those circumstances - is a different matter.

Might there have been a very rowdy, hostile or unwelcoming reception at the hotel/pub for Tony, that hasn't been accurately recorded?

was it an offer of a free room? maybe he couldn’t afford to pay if
not?

All very strange…

I’ve just watched Sweet Bobby*, and i can understand why it was compared to this program with all the voice messages and videos being shared.

But, Kirat did keep them for the (non-existent) police investigation.

*My god, is he handsome!

That's a good point, how much were the rooms? Not youth hostel prices.

I don't think we have all the facts here. Did he usually cycle all through the night in torrential rain? Had he planned his stops along the planned route?

So yes it was really stupid and there are questions around him cycling. So if I hit him, part of me would think for fuck sake,.why are you bloody cycling here and now and I would feel angry and put a lot of that on him I'm sure.

The problem is - he was still alive, left to die alone, then bleached.

I don't care what he did and how fucked that was cycling like that. I would absolutely be angry myself if I hit him but I would not leave some guy to die - even if I was drunk driving.

I agree re the landlord. They must have brought alot of business so their pie headed drunk neanderthal antics would have been somewhat overlooked

The Parsons family in the BBC documentary refer to Tony as being stubborn and single minded. I wonder if he was under-prepared/under trained and didn’t want to lose face. He didn’t look particularly fit. Probably not very sensible to do that sort of thing on your own either (albeit 100 miles isn’t a very great distance for a fit and experienced cyclist).

That part of Scotland (Fort William, Glencoe) is very popular with charity hikers and cyclists. I wondered if the locals get a bit annoyed with the more naive and inexperienced getting themselves in to difficulties, Not that that excuses what happened to Tony.

I also have suspicions about the LL story. I wonder if they really did offer him a room for the night - or if he was booked in somewhere else? Don’t think he was as this was never mentioned.

He was cycling to a town about seven miles down the road so I presumed he had accommodation arranged there.

AFAIK he was not planning to stop at all. He was planning on cycling right through and keeping going until he got home.

She’d known him for about a month and had got engaged within that time, so had suddenly been drawn deep into him. That’s a red flag in itself for him being a potentially dangerous person, even if she was too stupid to see it at the time I think subconsciously at least it must have registered.

he was a really heavy drinker and in her own words turned into a different person when drunk and got argumentative and violent,

oh, and he’d just confessed he’d murdered someone and then buried the body.

he also has access to guns!!

so you’ve got this man who you’ve been drawn into an extremely intense relationship with, you’ve just betrayed him completely, and you know he’s got violent tendencies in multiple different ways and has killed before even if it wasn’t the most logical way to solve the problem.

you couldn’t possibly think of a higher danger risk if you tried! Obviously she was scared of what he’d do if he found out it was her who donned him in!

@fartotheleftside I don’t really agree, I think she’d be at much more risk if he was say a very manipulative person with a history of coercive control and high level domestic violence.
That would show a man who was very capable and willing to of cause serious harm when challenged or had control removed.
She reported he had a dark side when high or pissed but she was also getting shit faced and clearly very unstable so I’m not sure her account after the fact with quite excitable delivery to a tv producer can be taken as fact.
I am not defending him in any way for his cruel and inhumane actions I just don’t think he necessarily posed a massive threat to life to Caroline and her family and this was actually tested when he did in fact find out she was the police informant and he did shit all and carried on seeing her.

I would have thought he could become more of a threat to her when he’s out of prison since she’s made a Netflix documentary about him.

Placemarking as about to watch this

Just finished.

The going back after going to the police is not properly explained. Weeks and months of sharing a bed, a life, drink and drugs with almost no accountability for that decision.

Caroline even before this likely manic given relationship 1 told her she was ‘a bit much at times’.

Had the relationship with Sandy not fizzled its likely she’d of stayed with and by him. Much of this documentary seems to be putting out a better narrative but one that doesn’t fully reflect the actual reality imho (rewriting parts of history). Did she really live there and not be intimate for example!?

Feel desperately sorry for Mr Parson’s & his family but tbh there was something about a lot of what Caroline says and the waterfall incident that felt ‘off’ - not as out of touch with reality as she portrayed again imho.

Thanks to her, Sandy got 12 years, be out in 6. 😢

Think he probably still loves her.

Sadly, it all made perfect sense to me. She was damaged by the breakdown of her long-term relationship and her new relationship imploded because her partner was a murder.

So very sad. She was not supported by the police at all.

I felt she was like an undercover agent, trying to find out he answers. It took a lot out of her and it must have terrified her.

If she had not stayed in place with him, I expect they would never have found the body.

Yes, she was erratic and when she stole the tractor I could not believe it but also I understand that she was just crazy and it did make sense!

Poor woman.

What those men did was so evil.