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Abortion - The Choice . Tuesday 13th May, BBC 2, 9pm

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Milliways · 12/05/2008 21:04

Tuesday 13th May, BBC 2, 9pm: Abortion - The Choice.
"Five women face up to their decision to have an abortion, describing their thought processes as they made one of the most difficult choices anybody can make, and on which there can be no hard and fast agreement. Beyond the chatter, 200,000 pregnancies are terminated in the UK each year and none is anything less than tortuous and painful - as demonstrated by this poignant film."

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posieparker · 24/05/2008 13:13

I will have an elective c-section and so this does reduce some complications that arise through birth. Obviously I will have a 20 week scan and then if nothing is picked up i will assume to have a 'normal' (I use that cautiously) baby and child, if anything proves to be contrary then I will face those consequences with bravery and focus, I hope.
I am truly sorry if it seems I have diminished or reduced the lives of families with a member with SLD to one of 'pity' or 'admiration' but I feel that when I see these children my instinct is to feel grateful that it isn't me or my children, which I guess proves my ignorance, for some. I admire the efforts that parents give and the sometimes constant care that is needed. That admiration is because whether you love your child or not the obstacles and prejudice you must face are not any that I would encounter. I hope that anyone I have met in RL never feels that I pity them and see my genuine smile as their autistic child smiles blissfully at me, or their child with DS waves the mopst welcoming wave and I respond in kind. I feel that I have learnt from you all and hope that despite choices in my own life I would never have anyone thinking for a moment that I think they should have made the same choice.
I wish you all the success and support with all of your children and hope that if I am ever faced with the same situation that I show the same level of humanity and all conquering love.

posieparker · 24/05/2008 13:16

oops just reread the whether you love your child or not, which should have come accross of course you love your children but life is a little more difficult....iyswim

pagwatch · 24/05/2008 13:19

fwiw posie i admire your honesty.
I can respect your views ( even if I don't agree with them and i think you have tried to discuss difficult issues with great consideration for the delicacy ofthe subject.

Off on hols now .

yurt1 · 24/05/2008 13:21

"when I see these children my instinct is to feel grateful that it isn't me or my children,"

blimey I feel that way about lots of NT kids.

pagwatch · 24/05/2008 13:23

and my DS1 has said that about quite a lot of parents too!

queen2shoes · 24/05/2008 16:14

yurt you took the words right out of my mouth.

posieparker · 24/05/2008 16:32

Have a nice holiday!
yurt1, not a trip to Waitrose goes by without me seeing a precocious brat and me being thankful that my children weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouth!

sarah293 · 24/05/2008 18:11

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Tortington · 24/05/2008 18:29

is it ok to abort one twin dya think?

sarah293 · 24/05/2008 18:32

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queen2shoes · 24/05/2008 18:46

(remebers to thump custy next time she sees her)

Tortington · 24/05/2008 18:48

lost.. dont get waitrose reference.

am only asking opinions 2shoes!

its not necessarily mine

posieparker · 24/05/2008 18:50

Riven are you in Bristol, Henleaze there's a lovely little Waitrose...
Custy Waitrose is a posh supermarket (supposedly)

Tortington · 24/05/2008 18:52

i had no idea

posieparker · 24/05/2008 18:58

Custy, are you taking the piss? Or/and I am being really stupid and you're saying you don't know why I posted the idiotic comment about silver spoon......

sarah293 · 24/05/2008 18:59

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Tortington · 24/05/2008 19:00

i wasn't taking the piss.

i didn't read that far down.

genuine mistake

i did know waitrose was a haunt of the MCs as the hierarchy o supermarkets has been discussed on MN many times

sorry for any misunderstanding

posieparker · 24/05/2008 19:11

riven , you'll spot me I'm the one with the harrassed look, does your dd go to Steiner St Christophers?
Custy, no worries!!

Tortington · 24/05/2008 19:15

so how do people feel regarding aborting one twin?

posieparker · 24/05/2008 19:26

In the instance that one survives only on the basis that one dies? Or they both die? Utalitarian or not?

sarah293 · 24/05/2008 19:34

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yurt1 · 24/05/2008 19:39

custy there was a case fairly recently wasn't there where someone went in to terminate a twin with DS (leaving the other twin), but the wrong twin was terminated.

Obviously a dreadful situation. What I found a little uncomfortable though was that people saw it as a tragedy because the child without DS had been aborted, whereas had the twin with DS been aborted it wouldn't have been a tragedy it would have been sad, or understandable or something that had to be done. The difference in perception of 'loss' was a difficult one for me tbh. I'm well aware that those views are not mainstream though and arise because of my experiences with my own son.

posieparker · 24/05/2008 19:43

St Christopher's on the Downs is Steiner and has a fantastic reputation, no???
My neighbour is a physio at Claremont.

posieparker · 24/05/2008 19:44

Riven, St Christopher's is a residential School for children and young people aged 5 to 19 who have severe and complex learning difficulties, Autism or profound and multiple learning difficulties. They all have very special requirements for their care and education.

Many of our pupils have language and communication disorders, some have physical disabilities and some display challenging behaviour. Some of the additional conditions are autistic spectrum disorder, cerebral palsy, epilepsy, Rett's Syndrome and Angelman's Syndrome.

The school term is 40 weeks. We also offer 52 week care facilities for those pupils and their families who need it.

St Christopher's is a registered charity that was founded on the curative educational principles of Rudolf Steiner in 1945 to offer an education to children with special educational needs who had been unable to learn and develop within the setting of mainstream schools. The school is constantly developing and adapting to the changing needs and requirements of the pupils

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