Who Killed Jon Bonet Ramsey

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Anyone watching it on Netflix? Half way through the 2nd episode.

not a shred of evidence against the family so far but that ransom note is so so odd

that poor poor girl 😔😔

It the note was genuine then it was written by someone who knew exactly how much the father's bonus was - surely that would narrow the possible suspects down considerably?

Real kidnappers don't waste their time writing elaborate notes. Neither do they write them when they arrive at your house.

They bring their note with them.

They just say something like:

We have your daughter
We want $250,000 or we'll kill her
Expect phone call at 6pm
Do not contact police

Oh and they actually kidnap the child. There is no point asking for a ransom on a dead child whose body is left in the house. Who is going to pay up? The removed child is their bargaining chip.

The window was open not broken. He was probably in the house for hours before the family came home. There was someone else's DNA on the little girls underwear and under her fingernails, the DNA didn't match her mother, father or brother (or any other close family) the police didn't reveal the DNA evidence for a long time, because it disproved their theory and allowed the press to whip up feeling against the family and the press published all sorts of blatant lies.

So we can then assume the kidnapper entered the house earlier,wrote the note and waited until all in bed to attempt to take JBR
Something went wrong and he struck her which killed her, so he left her and the note behind!?
That could fit.

The window was broken.
John Ramsey said he'd broken it himself many months previously.

Odd that they'd never got it mended, in that case.......

The window was both broken and open. The pane had been smashed the summer before, and the middle window was found open as well.
John said he'd thought it had been fixed, Patsy said she'd cleaned up all the glass on her return but hadn't fixed it

I hope you don't also believe when you get emails letting you know that you have inherited billions from a long-lost relative... Sorry but it is completely implausible that an intruder spent hours in the house perusing John's papers, writing out several drafts of a 3-page ransom note using Patsy's stationary (then nearly putting it back) only to then kill JonBenet and leave her in the house.

Yes!! All of this.

I'm afraid this new documentary is some kind of John Ramsey propaganda. I will not be watching it (having watched many other documentaries about the case). That note was written by Patsy and if so, only the family could have killed her.

Of course not. It is hilarious ! Get some rest John, bring a large attaché, foreign faction, quotes from Dirty Harry.

As someone else has said believing an intruder wrote all of the BS is sooooooo implausible I do question anyone's critical thinking if they think it was an intruder

This x 1 million

How do you explain the DNA found in her underwear and fingernails that was proved to have no family connection?

I don't have an explanation. Thankfully though DNA doesn't win a case on its own if all other evidence shows there was no intruder.

And didn’t steal anything.

Her autopsy report -

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I thought it might help those who have been widely speculating about who caused her death.

My gut feeling is that it wasn't her mother, father or brother and just feel that because they weren't conventional personalities, they immediately warrant suspicion.

You can be weird but not a murderer.

https://juror13lw.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/jonbenetramseyy_autopsy.pdf

I'm sorry. It's awful to think that the little girls family could have been involved in her death and the attempt to cover it up but truly......that's what I think happened here. The CBS documentary and the replay of the 911 call and the audio recording which clearly contradicts the account given by the family...makes for compelling and convincing argument that the family killed that poor child and covered it up.

I haven't watched the latest documentary.

On the matter of the ransom note: it's an extraordinary coincidence that a killer would have similar handwriting to the mother, if that is indeed the case. On the other hand, if I were writing a ransom note/poison pen letter/threat I would keep it short so there was not much to analyse.

Her murder has been the subject of conversation with our American friends over the years.

One put forward a theory that Patsy may have discovered her daughters body and in shock and denial at such an horrific discovery suffered a temporary psychosis.

In that state she reimagined what had happened and that her daughter was missing rather than dead and that without her true self knowing what she was doing, she fabricated the ransom note for her to believe later which was her unconscious self trying to protect her conscious self!

Sounds preposterous but he also offered insights into case of people with Dissociative identity disorder who may experience "switching" between identities, and may not recall events that happen while other identities are active.

It’s awful hearing the things said by the tv commentators about JonBenet, eg describing her as ‘sexually aware’.

I think as a stated in the show the parents were naive and unwittingly making her vulnerable to predators by the whole beauty pageant thing.
But then plenty of parents today post their children on social media and unwittingly expose them to paedophiles

i didn’t realize the family has had so much tragedy even aside from JonBenet’s death

it’s an interesting watch

I think that the DNA found - which was also proved to be from a male - is a hugely credible piece of evidence in this case, unlike the supposition presented by yourself and some others on this thread.

I don’t really get the ‘Burke did it’ theory.

If your child hit their sibling over the head with such force they appeared dead or unconscious you would panic and phone an ambulance first, then invent a story later about it being an accident. You wouldn’t think ‘oh I’ll tie them up, garrotte them, put them in the basement and write a random note’

I don’t understand why so many seem to buy into this theory, it makes zero sense to me.

Was she hit over the head? He was 9 so maybe people think he could have made the garotte himself. I think the note appearing to have been written by Patsy and the possibility that Burke would have been jealous of all the attention showered on JB makes people suspicious.

Yes she was hit over the head as well as being sexually assaulted.

@DelphineFox Yes and the Burke theory posits that he hit her over the head with a torch in anger, this killed her and the parents then set about staging a kidnapping to cover up for him. It was the theory pushed in a tv documentary a few years ago.

I totally understand that parents would potentially lie or cover for their child but you would 100% seek emergency help in that situation and make something up about how the head injury had occurred by accident.

I don't believe it was the family and never did. The police never investigated properly, leaked untrue information and withheld facts the public record. Male DNA of an unknown person was found all over JB, including under her fingernails as the little mite tried to fight for her life. I dont understand how could anyone say otherwise?

I'm watching another Netflix documentary series where someone went to jail because some expert absolutely swore that the bite marks on a child murder victim came from one person and one person only. That person was then in JAIL when another little girl was murdered and had similar bite marks to the 1st victim.

Also, the case of Lacey Peterson. Her husband is in jail for her murder despite there being no physical or DNA evidence to convict him, the timeline presented by the police was ripped apart in court, he had an alibi to prove he was nowhere near but convicted by the court of public opinion because he was a cheating, lying git and therefore must be a murderer.

I can see exactly why the Ramseys got a lawyer pretty damn quickly.

I've never seriously thought the Ramseys did it . The only one who I did consider was Bourk who is reported as autistic. It seems simple , he lashed out , they then covered it up . However I don't think this now given the assault with the paintbrush and the garrotting, no family would do that .
The manner of death is sexual and sadistic and so the mind of a psychopath not a family event gone wrong .
The police should be sued for not just a catalogue of failures but wilful suppression of evidence that didn't suit their narrative. The saxophone lady just illustrates how barking mad some of the so-called evidence against them was . All the witnesses said the Ramsey were a normal loving family and think what you will of John but that poor man has lost two daughters and a wife in tragic circumstances. More grief than imagined possible .