Who Killed Jon Bonet Ramsey

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Anyone watching it on Netflix? Half way through the 2nd episode.

not a shred of evidence against the family so far but that ransom note is so so odd

that poor poor girl 😔😔

I read before that some of those films had recently been broadcast on TV in their area. I think it was in Stephen kolars book. Could have been the lines were fresh in their mind. For those who believe in the intruder, how do you explain the ransom note which was pretty obviously written by patsy? It was written with objects from the house which were then put back in their rightful place afterwards. Are we supposed to believe a group of kidnappers would first of all not bring their own note and secondly know exactly where to find writing materials in this strange and cluttered house? And have the time and inclination with the rest of the family sleeping upstairs to leisurely draft a rambling 3 page note? It just makes no sense

Are we supposed to believe a group of kidnappers

There was never a "small foreign faction" or group of kidnappers. JB was never going to be beheaded. It was a fanciful rendering of a ransom note.

What they also had in the late nineties was video stores, where anyone could rent these movies.

Yes, why would one parent cover for the other - unless the other parent was, or could, be implicated in some way, eg by previous injuries to the body, SA, etc. Or you could ask who both parents would come together to protect?

As for the kidnappers and their bizarre ransom note, $118,000 isn’t a lot in this situation, and if they needed such a small sum of money why did they not take anything from the house? Presumably there was jewellery there and watches and other valuables.

Why would a kidnapper choose Christmas Day? That is one of the few nights of the year when the family’s routine would be completely different - there could be lots of guests staying over, people up late, more activity. You’d be better off choosing a random week night.

This PR blitz that John has started has massively backfired. People are now more suspicious of him as a result, and it seems like he has wasted his money on the “I’m a Great Guy” rebrand.

I didn’t mean to imply Burke may have abused JB after she was strangled, but after reading a lot about the case the past week I now think it’s the most plausible theory of him abusing her and then Patsy or John killing her. As for why, I can’t think why a parent would commit such a thing, but I can understand that a parent covered for their spouse and child because of a sick sense of loyalty. Most of the clues don’t point to an intruder but then again there’s that DNA that was found of an unknown male.

I believe either Burke, John or Patsy may have killed her by accident and then staged the scene and Patsy wrote the note to cover it up. They were absolutely obsessed with image and I absolutely believe they would cover for whoever in the family committed the murder.

Accidentally slowly strangled her with a garrotte? Accidentally sexually assaulted her?

Maybe they thought she was dead after the blow to the head, put the ligature around her neck as staging and then unknowingly left her to die.
I believe she was being sexually abused prior to the murder.

Looking at the side by side comparison of the note and Patsy’s handwriting, I am amazed that six handwriting experts thought it was highly unlikely that she didn’t write it.

Also, Patsy’s handwriting looks somewhat unnatural and childish - can’t recall if anyone else has noticed this? I would expect ‘nicer’ handwriting from a journalism graduate.

Also one of the female friends - I think Fleet White's wife gave a statement where she said she noticed that Patsy's normal handwriting changed after the murder.

DNA that's such a miniscule amount it could be from the factory workers packing the underwear JB was wearing.

Yes, a fanciful rendering by Patsy.

Staging which caused haemorrhaging and the cause of death to be strangulation?

Except it was from a white man, and they traced the supply chain back to China and no white man was involved.

Why would Patsy write that note?

@O6bftdff I'd suggest you go to the subreddit on this case. There is no viable intruder theory

Of course there is. The idea that anyone in the family did it is complete nonsense and falls apart so easily. No one who believes it was Burke ever says they believe that a nine year old could fashion a garrotte, slowly strangle his sister, sexually abuse her, and never break down afterwards.

No one who believes it was John can ever explain why Patsy would cover for him.

No one ever believes Patsy killed her - just that she covered it up. And then the cycle starts again - why would she cover for John, and do you believe a nine year old is capable of this crime?

There is always the ‘staging’ argument - and never an explanation for how this staging caused slow strangulation and sexual assault.

None of the accusations towards the family stack up to even the smallest bit of scrutiny.

No there really isn't. There is a mountain of evidence and lies that mean it had to be done by someone in the house. But you need to do a lot of reading.

No, there isn’t. There is no evidence that anyone in the family committed a crime that night.

I don't think we can be talking about the same case @O6bftdff

Indeed. What is the evidence you think points to anyone in the family? The pineapple? The bed wetting? Patsy wearing the previous day’s clothes? The note? The lack of footsteps in the snow?

That poor little girl was tortured using the garrotte. It was pulled and released several times. There were marks on her neck from her fingernails where she has desperately tried to release it. It was eventually pulled so tight that it was deep into her skin and barely visible.

Its ridiculous to think that the parents staged that.

There is zero evidence of an intruder. Dirt and debris around the supposed entry point was undisturbed, even cobwebs. The dna is touch dna only and tiny amounts which arent indicative of it being the perpetrator(s). Red fibres consistent with the red sweater Patsy was wearing the previous night were found on the inside of the tape which was on JonBenets mouth, and in the knot tied around the paintbrush handle. Everything used in the crime came from inside the house. The note was very clearly written by patsy, something which would only be done if someone in the family was involved. The Ramseys refused to speak with police for months, choosing instead to do televised interviews. There was evidence of previous sexual abuse.

Unfortunately when children are abused and/or killed it's far more likely that it was someone within their family than a stranger. I dont know why people refuse to accept the likely explanation in this case.

John is this you? 🤔

Good one. No one who suspects the family ever has answers to the questions which make their involvement ridiculous.