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Who Killed Jon Bonet Ramsey

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Itsonlybridgetagain · 25/11/2024 13:38

Anyone watching it on Netflix? Half way through the 2nd episode.

not a shred of evidence against the family so far but that ransom note is so so odd

that poor poor girl 😔😔

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MoSalahsBeard · 02/12/2024 18:44

*ransom note

Pootle40 · 02/12/2024 19:03

MoSalahsBeard · 02/12/2024 18:43

The thing I can’t get past is the £118,000 in the random note being the amount John was just given as a bonus. What are the chances that a random intruder would put that amount in the random note?! I’ve listened to two reputable podcasts recently that have said an intruder did it but I just can’t see it!

Or what sort of scary kidnapper writes 'use some of your good southern common sense'. Ridiculous. Patsy wrote the note.

Foodie333 · 02/12/2024 19:31

monkfruitmartini · 02/12/2024 13:48

I think if an intruder wrote it, he did it to fuck with their heads. It's sadistic.

Obviously there was never a "small foreign faction".

An intruder, waiting in an empty house for the occupants to come home and the parents to go to sleep so he could sexually assault the daughter, was not a one-off in Boulder. Lots of interesting parallels in the case of the girl who went to the same dance studio as JB.

A known pedo making it look like ransom ?

DwarfBeans · 02/12/2024 19:38

monkfruitmartini · 02/12/2024 12:34

Why should they address that documentary, and not the many other documentaries, good and bad? This Netflix one was examining the angle of an intruder did it. They weren't doing a balanced overview, looking at all the angles already presented, they were presenting the intruder theory.

Because they brought up the 2016 documentary and dissed it without explaining why it was incorrect.

If you want to change people's minds then you need to give them more than just threats to sue.

By not discussing the pineapple when a lot of people see that as crucial evidence speaks volumes.

TENSsion · 02/12/2024 20:06

MoSalahsBeard · 02/12/2024 18:43

The thing I can’t get past is the £118,000 in the random note being the amount John was just given as a bonus. What are the chances that a random intruder would put that amount in the random note?! I’ve listened to two reputable podcasts recently that have said an intruder did it but I just can’t see it!

Which podcasts, please? I’d like to give them a listen

Pootle40 · 02/12/2024 20:11

This is a very well summarised article across all points

deeptrouble.substack.com/p/why-the-jonbenet-case-still-feels

Firealarm1414 · 02/12/2024 20:16

Patsy wrote the ransom note 100%. Look at the handwriting comparison. In the sample she even slips up on a few occasions by writing the letter a in the unusual way the ransom note does, when she was clearly trying not to do that. Despite what this documentary claims, she wasnt ruled out by handwriting experts, they just couldnt say categorically that it was or wasn't her. Why would you write a note to throw the police off the scent if someone in the house wasn't involved?

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KangaRoo00 · 02/12/2024 20:23

This case has captivated me since I was 9 years old. I remember reading about it during 'free computer time' at school.

If I had to choose between knowing the secrets of the universe or how JBR was really killed I'd probably go for the latter.

I've listened to every podcast, watched every documentary, I go over and over it in my mind.

monkfruitmartini · 02/12/2024 20:50

DwarfBeans · 02/12/2024 19:38

Because they brought up the 2016 documentary and dissed it without explaining why it was incorrect.

If you want to change people's minds then you need to give them more than just threats to sue.

By not discussing the pineapple when a lot of people see that as crucial evidence speaks volumes.

It's evidence JB had a snack after being put to bed. She is more than capable of walking down some stairs and opening a fridge door.

Complaining that this doco doesn't reference and address every piece of evidence used in other docos or the dozen plus books on the case is really missing the point of putting forward an alternative that shows up instead the plice bungles, missteps, and the dogged pursuit of the Ramseys by an unexperienced lead detective who was previously on the drug squad. It was a homicide from Dec 26 and should have been led by a homicide detective with experience of such cases.

monkfruitmartini · 02/12/2024 20:53

Pootle40 · 02/12/2024 19:03

Or what sort of scary kidnapper writes 'use some of your good southern common sense'. Ridiculous. Patsy wrote the note.

Except John wasn't from the south. He was born in Nebraska and raised in Michigan.

BettyBardMacDonald · 02/12/2024 20:53

Pootle40 · 02/12/2024 19:03

Or what sort of scary kidnapper writes 'use some of your good southern common sense'. Ridiculous. Patsy wrote the note.

Not only that but who would risk life in prison or the death penalty for a meagre $118,000. Even in the mid-90s that was nothing, for a "small foreign faction" to survive on. How would that small amount advance some sort of revolutionary cause, or whatever?

John worked for a gigantic, powerful defense contracting firm whose major client was and is the US government. Surely it would make more sense to kidnap HIM and ask the employer for ransom, than to be bumbling around a suburban house on Christmas Day evening trying to kidnap a six-year-old for a small amount of money.

It's ridiculous. Burke accidentally injured her, dragged her around by the "garrotte," the parents realized it and being as image-conscious as they are, and wanting to keep their son from a life of being stigmatized as 'the kid who killed his sister with a torch' created this cover-up scenario. It was their good fortune that the cops who were dispatched on Boxing Day morning had the IQs of overripe bananas.

Pootle40 · 02/12/2024 20:55

Firealarm1414 · 02/12/2024 20:16

Patsy wrote the ransom note 100%. Look at the handwriting comparison. In the sample she even slips up on a few occasions by writing the letter a in the unusual way the ransom note does, when she was clearly trying not to do that. Despite what this documentary claims, she wasnt ruled out by handwriting experts, they just couldnt say categorically that it was or wasn't her. Why would you write a note to throw the police off the scent if someone in the house wasn't involved?

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Wow! I actually mistook her sample for the letter

monkfruitmartini · 02/12/2024 20:55

Not only that but who would risk life in prison or the death penalty for a meagre $118,000. Even in the mid-90s that was nothing, for a "small foreign faction" to survive on. How would that small amount advance some sort of revolutionary cause, or whatever?

There was never a small foreign faction. That is an adolescent-brained fantasy of what a ransom note would say. The entire thing is either culled from or influenced by movies.

monkfruitmartini · 02/12/2024 20:58

Pootle40 · 02/12/2024 16:55

That doesn't take a genius to figure out! Why is he still talking about mark Carr or whatever he is called, long since ruled out. He even dedicated 20 minutes to people who were apparently suspects but have been ruled out.

It keeps the intruder theory 'alive'. And if you were new to this case then it brings new 'intruder'believers 🤨

Who is "he" who "even dedicated 20 minutes to people who were apparently suspects but have been ruled out."

You seem to be confusing Amy's father with Joe Berlinger.

Pootle40 · 02/12/2024 21:01

I am talking about John Ramsey in the Netflix documentary he made backed. The third episode goes off down a rabbit hole bringing up all sorts of random suspects long since ruled out. But it helps keep the ridiculous intruder theory open to a whole new audience.

monkfruitmartini · 02/12/2024 21:03

Pootle40 · 02/12/2024 21:01

I am talking about John Ramsey in the Netflix documentary he made backed. The third episode goes off down a rabbit hole bringing up all sorts of random suspects long since ruled out. But it helps keep the ridiculous intruder theory open to a whole new audience.

Well, I'm talking about Amy's father who was interviewed by reporters in 2022 (as per links provided).

O6bftdff · 02/12/2024 21:09

BettyBardMacDonald · 02/12/2024 20:53

Not only that but who would risk life in prison or the death penalty for a meagre $118,000. Even in the mid-90s that was nothing, for a "small foreign faction" to survive on. How would that small amount advance some sort of revolutionary cause, or whatever?

John worked for a gigantic, powerful defense contracting firm whose major client was and is the US government. Surely it would make more sense to kidnap HIM and ask the employer for ransom, than to be bumbling around a suburban house on Christmas Day evening trying to kidnap a six-year-old for a small amount of money.

It's ridiculous. Burke accidentally injured her, dragged her around by the "garrotte," the parents realized it and being as image-conscious as they are, and wanting to keep their son from a life of being stigmatized as 'the kid who killed his sister with a torch' created this cover-up scenario. It was their good fortune that the cops who were dispatched on Boxing Day morning had the IQs of overripe bananas.

This is ridiculous. A nine year old bashing his sister’s head in, fashioning a garotte, and slowly strangling her, and sexually assaulting her with a paint brush? A nine year old? Who wouldn’t have that much more strength than a six year old.

I do not understand why people keep referring to the family ‘staging it’ after JonBenet’s death. She was slowly strangled to death and haemorrhaged as a result. She was sexually assaulted with a paintbrush. This isn’t an accident gone wrong. It’s the work of a psychopath.

westisbest1982 · 02/12/2024 21:32

$118,000 then is worth $237,000 now, so quite a lot of money, but maybe not to the Ramsey's.

Mentioned already on this thread, but some theorists have said that if there was an intruder then the intruder saw the bonus figure of $118K in John's paperwork in John's desk and decided he'd that amount. But as people have said here, that would be a usually thoughtful kidnapper / sicko paedophile. The note also refers to dialogue from some films, including the Mel Gibson film Ransom.

So the amount makes me think that Patsy or John may have written that note, to suggest one of John's disgruntled colleagues wrote it.

monkfruitmartini · 02/12/2024 21:35

Yes, dialogue from Dirty Harry, Ruthless People, Speed, Nick of Time, and Ransom, among others.

MoSalahsBeard · 02/12/2024 22:03

TENSsion · 02/12/2024 20:06

Which podcasts, please? I’d like to give them a listen

The Consult (FBI profilers) and the Prosecutors

O6bftdff · 02/12/2024 22:13

westisbest1982 · 02/12/2024 21:32

$118,000 then is worth $237,000 now, so quite a lot of money, but maybe not to the Ramsey's.

Mentioned already on this thread, but some theorists have said that if there was an intruder then the intruder saw the bonus figure of $118K in John's paperwork in John's desk and decided he'd that amount. But as people have said here, that would be a usually thoughtful kidnapper / sicko paedophile. The note also refers to dialogue from some films, including the Mel Gibson film Ransom.

So the amount makes me think that Patsy or John may have written that note, to suggest one of John's disgruntled colleagues wrote it.

Why would they write the note?

westisbest1982 · 02/12/2024 22:15

O6bftdff · 02/12/2024 22:13

Why would they write the note?

To deflect from them.

Then again, I was just reflecting - would this middle aged couple really know dialogue off by heart from the films listed above?

O6bftdff · 02/12/2024 22:28

westisbest1982 · 02/12/2024 22:15

To deflect from them.

Then again, I was just reflecting - would this middle aged couple really know dialogue off by heart from the films listed above?

So they jointly slowly strangled and sexually assaulted their child?

westisbest1982 · 02/12/2024 22:34

O6bftdff · 02/12/2024 22:28

So they jointly slowly strangled and sexually assaulted their child?

I think that’s unlikely, but more likely one of them killed JB, the other covered, and Burke sexually assaulted her.

O6bftdff · 02/12/2024 22:56

westisbest1982 · 02/12/2024 22:34

I think that’s unlikely, but more likely one of them killed JB, the other covered, and Burke sexually assaulted her.

So now we’ve got one parent covering for the other killing their daughter? Why would they cover it? And a nine year old comes across his dead sister and instead of feeling deeply distressed he sexually assaults her body?

Absolutely bat shit.

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