Who Killed Jon Bonet Ramsey

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Anyone watching it on Netflix? Half way through the 2nd episode.

not a shred of evidence against the family so far but that ransom note is so so odd

that poor poor girl 😔😔

Yes, but the supposed kidnappers didn’t know the police would do a crap search, did they?

If somebody kills another person and leaves their body in their house, they’re usually not going to think that leaving a ransom note buys them time to get over the state line - because they’d rightly assume the police would find the body in the house when doing a proper search/examination. Therefore, the theory that the supposed kidnappers decided to leave an unnecessary ransom note behind ‘to buy time’ is unlikely.

”We’ve killed JB by accident during our kidnap attempt and left her body in the basement. I know! Let’s write a long and unnecessary ransom note, possibly leaving incriminating evidence behind in our writing style, the content, etc etc” Not likely, is it? What a real kidnapper would do is either take the little body with them and continue with the ransom demand, not letting on that JB is actually dead; or they’d flee and abandon the body without faffing about with a ransom note - because the odds are that it would buy them no time at all because the police would come across the body in their search.

Unless you’re saying the kidnappers are psychic and knew the police would mess up the initial search.

Unless you’re saying the kidnappers are psychic and knew the police would mess up the initial search.

I'm not saying anything. You're the one making incomprehensible points.

Exactly, @BreatheAndFocus

That 20-30 minutes writing the ransom note could have had them well out of Boulder, blending in with traffic elsewhere.

There were no intruders.

I’m sorry you’re struggling with reading comprehension. It’s not exactly hard to understand and I’m not sure how I can write it any more simply.

Indeed! A total waste of their get-away time.

I think pretty well everyone on the intruder did it side of things believes the intruder let themselves into the house after they went out to their friend's Christmas party, so they had many hours to write the note.

I think the note is a red herring. Whether you believe a Ramsey wrote it to throw them off the scent, after JB's death, or whether you believe an intruder wrote it - I don't believe it was ever a kidnapping for money.

But the sensible thing, having killed JB, would be not to leave the note - because it’s leaving extra evidence for the police; is unnecessary (because JB is dead); and any sane kidnapper would know that the police would look around the house and find the body. Therefore the random note wouldn’t buy them any time and would only add to the evidence against them.

Again, the ‘small foreign faction’ or whoever you’re saying the intruder is wouldn’t know in advance that the bungling police would fail to find the body for hours. They would assume the police or parents would find the body quickly.

The ransom note was the only chance the ramsey's had off trying to throw anyone of their scent. Otherwise it's their own child dead in their house with no sign of an intruder. Unfortunately Patsy went OTT on the ransom note so it backfired.

I think if an intruder wrote it, he did it to fuck with their heads. It's sadistic.

Obviously there was never a "small foreign faction".

An intruder, waiting in an empty house for the occupants to come home and the parents to go to sleep so he could sexually assault the daughter, was not a one-off in Boulder. Lots of interesting parallels in the case of the girl who went to the same dance studio as JB.

I’m sorry you’re struggling with reading comprehension. It’s not exactly hard to understand and I’m not sure how I can write it any more simply.

This is the post I could not understand the point of and wrote "What?" to.

The ransom note was supposed to buy someone time. It was full of threats of what would happen if they called the police.

@monkfruitmartini the other girl case was dropped I believe - something about the stepdad was the abuser in that one.

I meant this one.

JonBenet Ramsey case may have link to unsolved 1997 Boulder rape: dad

Dad claims key clues in case 'linked to JonBenet Ramsey murder' were dismissed by cops as night stalker rapist at large | The US Sun

@monkfruitmartini I listened to The Consult episodes last week. Wasn't the best - they seemed to be missing a lot of information. It's all well and good profiling some sort of sadist but that becomes a problem if the evidence says they weren't there and a lot of the seemingly sadist things done on the surface actually weren't as brutal as they were made to appear.

There is only one reason the parents would have covered up a crime they didn't commit though surely? To protect their other child.

Yep that's the same case @monkfruitmartini was no break in

Thank you. Stopped watching when I saw JR was involved.

What do you mean?

@monkfruitmartini the wife was having some sort of extra marital relationship while the dad was out of town so ultimately the case seems to have been dropped as believed the boyfriend tried it on with amy, the 14 year old daughter and that the story had been made up to cover something else !

I think the one the PI debunked in 1999 is separate. It was the PI said "about three months after the Ramsey murder".

Amy was assaulted in September 1997. The police were still talking about it as an actual intruder assault in 2000 reports.

Amy was 12. If there was no intruder why is the victim's father still talking about it with reporters in 2022?

Yes, and I replied “Not really” - ie it wouldn’t buy them time because the police and/or parents would find the body in the initial search. The fact the police didn’t is because they didn’t do a good job. Odds were the body would be found early on, making the ransom note useless and possibly incriminating too.

That doesn't take a genius to figure out! Why is he still talking about mark Carr or whatever he is called, long since ruled out. He even dedicated 20 minutes to people who were apparently suspects but have been ruled out.

It keeps the intruder theory 'alive'. And if you were new to this case then it brings new 'intruder'believers 🤨

Distraction I call it

If the note was real I'd be getting the money together not calling the police.

The thing I can’t get past is the £118,000 in the random note being the amount John was just given as a bonus. What are the chances that a random intruder would put that amount in the random note?! I’ve listened to two reputable podcasts recently that have said an intruder did it but I just can’t see it!