The Crown - season 6

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Is anyone else looking forward to this? The first part of the final season is on Netflix from 16th November (four episodes), and the second part (six episodes) from 14th December.

https://www.vogue.co.uk/arts-and-lifestyle/article/the-crown-season-6

I thought the previous series was a bit boring so I'm hoping for more drama this time round.

whereas for this series almost everyone else except for possibly the queen is pushed to the periphery and we just have a Diana-Charles-William soap opera.

Yes and many of us lived through these events and remember them very well. So it doesn't draw you in in the way that the earlier seasons did. And I miss the beautiful costumes and sets!

Also, as mentioned above, this period simply isn't that interesting in royal terms. An attractive young couple falling in love at university? The PM enjoying a brief period of popularity? It's hardly epic, is it?

I just googled Harry trip to Canada in the 90s and he was very young looking compared to the actor

Lesley Manville is terrific as Margaret

Apart from Claire Foy as queen I did like Helena Bonham Carter as younger Margaret

Helena Bonham Carter is always Helena Bonham Carter. Eccentric posh lady. Not too far off the mark when it comes to Princess Margaret I suppose, but she brought none of Vanessa Kirby's subtlety and complexity to the role.

Bertie Carvel’s accent is spot on. Some Scottish vowels in there.

I agree. Absolutely appalling. She must be so embarrassed - made for very uncomfortable viewing.

I think it was wrong to bring the series up to such recent times. The Diana/Charles/Camilla story has been done time and time again so wasn't very interesting. And speculating on the what Kate/William/Carole may or may not have said/done just seems very wrong.

Yes, Vanessa Kirby was spectacular I thought,

HBC wasn’t a disaster, I thought she gave a competent performance.

I agree Ladybird I think it was a thoughtless silly decision rather than a malicious one. Harry has certainly paid for it since.

And they certainly did ram home the message about being second almost being harder than having the top job! I think Harry has a warmer personality in public anyway, than they portrayed.

I agree she wasn't terrible, because her persona aligned well with the middle aged Margaret. However, I don't think she really added anything much to the role. Like I say, Helena Bonham Carter is always Helena Bonham Carter. No more, no less.

Well I liked HBC in the role of Margaret, and I'm also a fan of hers generally. Vanessa Kirby was also excellent, of course.

The bit that cracked me up was William talking to the Queen about going to the Middletons for lunch and trying to work out where they'd eat 'in the kitchen? Like the staff?'

I thought that was ridiculous. There’s no way that the Queen wouldn’t have known that lots of people don’t have a separate dining room, and I think she’d have considered it poor taste to joke about it. It was more like something Diana might have said.

I agree that the portrayal of Carole Middleton was very unfair.

Tommy Lascalles was probably my favourite character, although probably not like that in real life, but I don't care!

They certainly haven’t done Carole any favours and the infodump about air-hostess-to-Party-Pieces was clumsy, but I didn’t dislike what she said about her husband being lucky to have her, therefore implying that William would be lucky to have Kate. I think that’s probably true, IMO (that he’s lucky to have her rather than the other way around).

Agree with you @GreenPencil - I think that was meant to mean that William was lucky to have Kate. And I really think he is. Yes - they have unimagined wealth and privilege but it is a hard life and one you can’t just retire from. As The Crown showed.

The actor who played Harry - thought he was a red haired Eddie Redmayne!

He was mine.
He stole every scene he was in.
Especially liked the way he dismissed 'Group Captain Townsend'
And way he 'educated' the young Queen Elizabeth, regarding her uncle David and his Nazi connections.
And finally the way, he delivered his findings on Tony Armstrong Jones', private life to the Queen, in such a respectful and delicate way and keeping a straight face - brilliant.

I also loved Tommy Lascelles- LEGEND.

Tommy was ace. Just the disdain with a faint hint of boredom, all whilst sorting all those chaps out.

The teen years Harry actor was totally out of place for me, his haircut was appalling and the kind of do that lads have now, not back then. Every time he was on screen it took me out of the show.

I'm sure the Middletons had a dining room. There is or was a sort of middle class idea of having a cosy supper together with guests in the kitchen rather than being formal in the dining room. I think the idea was that by inviting your guests for a kitchen supper you were implying that there was a grand dining room alternative. I imagine the fashion for a cosy kitchen supper evening was not echoed in the lives of the senior royals.

I thought the dynamics in Episide 5 with Wills/Charles/Philip were really touching - not sure how it could be described as boring.
The Will & Kate stuff was a bit underwhelming tho.
Lesley Manville (especially) and Imelda Staunton really smashed it out of the park in episode 8 - but Margaret was the character who kept on giving throughout all the series.
Just the last 2 episodes still to watch.

@IcedPurple all the old catered halls at St Andrews, the ones right in town in character buildings, are shared rooms only for first years, unless there are exceptional circumstances ( like William had!), if you want a room in one you have to tick the willing to share box on the form. My son was in Sallies for two years, shared room first then single room for second year ( until he was sent home due to it being 2020!).

Not sure why this comment is for me?

Yes @Hbh17 Lesley M was brilliant, played the character of Margaret so sympathetically. Her and HMQ were such a tight unit.

Yes, this was my experience at a UK university at this time (1998-2001 in my case). Semesters and terms were different things with, as you say, three terms split by holidays but the teaching and assessment periods split into 2 semesters.

And some halls were shared rooms. I was very nervous about being put into a shared room. Would have hated it.