HAPPY VALLEY S3 - Sundays 9pm bbc 1 - TV PACE NO SPOILERS - thread 4

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As thread 3 is almost full at 984 thought would do a new thread as didn't see one

hope that’s ok

will link the other 3 below

Would be more realistic for the OCG to kill TLR.
He'd be even more hot to handle if he kills a police officer, Darius knows he's a liability.

I’ve just read that next weeks episode is going to be a long episode

Catherine isn’t a nice character she has become hardened she is angry she is bitter she is flawed. We don’t have to like her to understand her.

it was a very emotional episode, no over dramatised script, no pleasing the views script we are left feeling frustrated with unanswered questions but that’s how life is (and I think how the series will end)

There are ways he could have found this out. Who knows what Neil, Claire and Ryan have been blabbing to him. Then there's his weird, whispering girlfriend from Season 2, who was finding out everything about the people in Ryan's life and feeding it back. It may even have come out in the court evidence given by Ann against TLR is she was a trainee policewoman by the time of that trial (I've given evidence as a victim of crime - the prosecution wanted to emphasise my professional status to show I was a reliable witness).

I don't think we're going to see any of the twists mentioned here, there's not enough time left.
Catherine saying in the recap that he's not Ryan's dad is the same as all the other times. It's not going to suddenly come out that he's not his biological father.
I think TLR will end up killed by Darius or one of his lot, he's a liability if he doesn't just go off to Spain quietly
It'll quickly come out that Pfizer was supplying Jo, he will go to pieces in the interview.
Neckbeard will dump the girls with either his mum or Jo's
Catherine will be the first on the scene as Tommy lays dying and tell him what a despicable c*nt he is
They will all make up
End of episode

Well that's what I hope happens

Did anyone ever watch the Dynasty spin off in the 1980s - the Colbys? There's a batshit ending to to one season where a couple of characters are beamed up by aliens. I have visions of TLR being chased on the moors, when suddenly, a flying saucer appears, all the coppers are frozen and TLR is beamed aboard. His fate will be to be used for alien experiments for the rest of his natural. PC Takeli's Alien Liaison Officer role will become a real one, he will drop his bullying complaints, will be given instant promotion and and he will become a national celebrity. Ryan will do his GCSEs and become an upstanding member of the community. Catherine will make peace with everyone, and drive off into the sunset into a contented retirement.

Can't keep up with all the posts.

I think an embittered, unpleasant Catherine is entirely believable.

We haven't seen much of Nev this season, have we? Did he say he has a place in Spain (Malaga)? or did I imagine that?

Agreed I’m not from Yorkshire but family are and that bit really annoyed me too 😂😂😂 sounded out on.

I've already stress-eaten the rice.

I'll have to get more. Lucky the confetti dkept sticking to my tongue so I left it.

@Notsurenotquiteright and @Whatatimetobealivetoday he was taking the piss out of how beetroot man said it

Darius is very attractive isn't he?

(I'm a bit like that aristocratic lady in Mapp and Lucia - can't remember the character's name - when it comes to beards.)

True actually, awww poor beetroot man. Got a feeling beetroot man is hard as nails actually and TLR will underestimate him 😂

I too think all the red herrings are just that. There isn't enough time to explore all the possibles. I also think it highly unlikely that Ann would start her CID training without some psychological profiling after all the trauma. She is obviously suffering from some sort of PTSD. Plus she is living with the son of the officer who rescued her and still working in the same community among the same villains. She should have been posted somewhere else.

Can I join in with my musings, please!!

Why did Darius risk being the driver for TLR - he could have used any of his henchmen for that but didn't. Also, he's standing to be a local councillor - why risk being tainted with TLR's escape?

He was certainly unimpressed with TLR's suggestion he wanted a gun to kill Catherine (or Anne, as others have suggested).

I think Darius has his own agenda here and I certainly don't think for one minute it involves getting TLR and Ryan safely to Marbella to forge a new life.

I'm wondering if Darius will kill TLR off as the latter is a complete psychotic liability (CC said to Ryan that TLR had a "kink" in his brain - and Darius isn't entirely thick?

Or, it that he simply didn't trust his henchmen to do a proper job of getting TLR to the safe house? And why would he be bothered if they didn't?

Also - could Ryan's room be bugged and that entire exchange with TLR be recorded?

By way of an aside - I live near to the Amico café where the showdown with Claire and CC took place - I may have to pop in later to see if I get any further inspiration!

@MoirasSaggyBundles ah I didn’t think of that, very true.

I can’t imagine it’ll be all wrapped up neatly next week, I’m sure there will be a spectacular ending but I don’t think SW is prone to tying the ends up neatly! I imagine some threads left dangling.

Agree that it's likely Darius is the one who kills TLR, or gives the order to have him killed. Having a cop killer in his wider circle might be unhelpful for his political ambitions. Tommy's body thrown in the lake where we saw the body being fished out in the opening scenes of the first episode. Full circle.

Yes he is, he kept reminding me of someone though and I realised it was David Suchet 🤔

• I do not fancy Poirot

I agree - and with beetroot chopper guy. You could see TLR reaction to the state of his digs.

In the van, Darius was blowing smoke up TLR ass, until the mention of fixing Catherine. The mood really changed .

The accommodation is insultingly bad. The guy left him standing outside, handed him a four pack of beer, basic room, hideous bedding...it's not a hero's welcome exactly.

I reckon there is no Marbella and Ryan will shop his Dad. Christ only knows bout Faizal, dumb and dumber and Alison.

There is too much for one last episode.

And I fancy Ryan. Please God he's not 16 in real life, I don't want to be a pervert.

Nev's place is Majorca, one of the islands, TLR is going to Marbella on the mainland. Malaga is the airport near Marbella

I think Darius will plan to have TLR killed but it may go wrong. TLR steal a car and go looking for Catherine.

I didn't understand Darius cancelling his meeting with Richard.

If that was so he could collect TLR, he must have already known he was doing that, or for some reason he's changed plans at last minute for who was to pick him up.

Plus, it was daylight when he did the TLR pick up/drop off and dark at the time of his meeting with Richard, so why couldn't he do both? How far away from Halifax is TLR?

Omg you don't think Ryan could die??

WASH OUT YOUR MOUTH!!! 😦

Catherine was so vile to everyone tonight. And the way she mocked Tekeli, all seemed very much out of character for her.

Tekeli is a thick tw*t. In organisations like the police there is a very thin line between bullying and bonding - nicknames, practical jokes etc are part of the bonding process among people who work in very stressful and dangerous environments in the same way that black humour is.

Teleki is going to be in situations on the street where he will need to know that his colleagues have his back - and being prepared to take a joke is an important part of it. In many organisations it's a way of welcoming someone onto the team. I'm not saying it's right, but it helps colleagues get the measure of each other and establish their place in the group. People who stand on their dignity all the time are hard to work with. You've got to be able to have a bit of craic. Teleki's turn this time, someone else's next.

I've been in both work-type situations - bullying and joshing, and there is a difference, in the same way that in families (and police etc are very much "families") there is internal teasing that may look awful from the outside, but is actually an expression of affection.

I'm not defending bullying, but mutual teasing and black humour are the only way that horrific situations can be coped with sometimes.

My heart ached for him.

But I think he will remember that Daniel said Catherine was vile when Becky died, but that she didn't mean it, it was just that she couldn't cope.

I wondered if telling her "I love you" was his way of apologising in advance for something he intends to do - go off with Tommy and kill him, perhaps. But he looked so bereft (I'm re-watching now).

I'm just watching Neckbeard at his mother's, with Florence throwing herself at him for a cuddle, and Poppy staring at the two of them. I'm wondering if Florence is daddy's "special" girl.

Catherin IS as hard as nails in this series, but I think 007DoubleSeven is right when she says "She's just totally broken and consumed by pain and survival.

I thought the same - she's exhausted, terrified (not for herself - for Ryan) and she's carrying the entire burden herself. Richard is a dick, Anne is falling to pieces because of her own hideous experience, Claire is trying so hard to be kind to everyone she is as weak as water - no wonder Catherine feels betrayed and as if she is fighting this battle alone and unarmed, and that she can't rely on anyone even to have her back..

I think the question we all need the answer to is this....

Now that Clare is stopping at Nev's, do you think they'll both sneak off in his car up t'mooooors for a jump?!!

How had I not made that connection! 😂😂😂

Totally forgot he was 'Bob'

Yes and Beetroot Man knew he was doing it. He replied “tonight you watch TE-LE-VI-SION and tomorrow you get TE-LE-PHONE”.

Darius has deliberately withheld a phone from TLR.

But reckoned without online gaming connection.