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William "screamed and shouted" at Harry.

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felulageller · 15/12/2022 10:37

Ep5.
So that's the big accusation we've been waiting for.

Then a denial that he, Harry, denied William had bullied him and MM.

Denying that you denied it so implying it was true that William was bullying them?

Never liked William anyway. Hope he's never King.

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Crispychocolateslab · 15/12/2022 11:56

In my experience when dramatists and liars like Harry claim they were ‘screamed’ at what actually happened is that someone raised their voice slightly. Which in this case is entirely understandable.

CannibalQueen · 15/12/2022 11:57

They're brothers. It's a win if they didn't get physical!

ChessieDarling · 15/12/2022 11:58

It’s all just a bit pathetic really. Who cares that two brothers fell out and voices were raised (on both sides I expect)? If that’s the big shocker moment they’ve drummed up, well, it does just add merit to the opinion that this is all a fabricated drama.
I don’t particularly have anything against H&M, and I don’t particularly have anything against W&C, but this is all just the equivalent of embarrassing statuses on Facebook, and they need to grow up.

beatsin8s · 15/12/2022 11:58

justgettingthroughtheday · 15/12/2022 11:54

I'm not watching anything different. What have they said that isnt actually true? That the palace haven't protected him? Well we all know that's true. That they have protected William? We also know that's true! That people surrounding the royal family blocked Harry from the Queen? That has also been widely reported.

What do you thinks they should have done? Be the scapegoats for the rest of their lives? And if you do would you accept that reality for your kids? Would you be happy having cameras on you 24hrs a day? On your children? Hideous untruths being said about you in the media?
Would you cope with that?

Refreshing to hear someone actually talking sense.

Ostryga · 15/12/2022 11:59

My sister and I are in our 30s, we haven’t screamed or shouted at each since we were in our early teens.

I think Wills is a bit of a knobber tbh. No wonder Kate looked so disgusted when he touched that one time 😂

justgettingthroughtheday · 15/12/2022 12:00

@Same1977 nope no narrative! Just sick of bullies and the utterly vile way this world is heading!
I will call out hate and racism when I see it. And I see a hell of a lot of it on this thread!

justgettingthroughtheday · 15/12/2022 12:01

@CornishGem1975 please answer my questions!

Coxspurplepippin · 15/12/2022 12:01

'Would you be happy having cameras on you 24hrs a day? On your children?'

But this doesn't happen does it? Plenty of other members of the RF seem to go about their days without having cameras on them unless they're doing official duties. There are occasional pictures of William and Kate's children but they're not photographed 24 hours a day.

It all seems to be very dramatic and exaggerated.

skippy67 · 15/12/2022 12:03

Crispychocolateslab · 15/12/2022 11:56

In my experience when dramatists and liars like Harry claim they were ‘screamed’ at what actually happened is that someone raised their voice slightly. Which in this case is entirely understandable.

Unless you know Harry personally, your "experience" is irrelevant.

Iamnotausername · 15/12/2022 12:03

I've not watched the programme and have no intention of, but what are H&M actually wanting to achieve with everything they've done?

Are they just after the money or are they wanting to "expose" something and if so, why will that benefit them?

FWIW I completely believe M when she says she experienced racism. I also suspect she didn't know what she was signing up to and found that difficult.

Wasn't Kate subject to a lot of grief until M came along? Now the spotlight is on H&M and Kate can do no wrong.

3peassuit · 15/12/2022 12:03

If I had a pound for every time I had a shouting match with my sisters I’d be a very rich woman. We always make up though.

antelopevalley · 15/12/2022 12:03

There are loads of rumours about William's temper.

Same1977 · 15/12/2022 12:04

justgettingthroughtheday · 15/12/2022 12:00

@Same1977 nope no narrative! Just sick of bullies and the utterly vile way this world is heading!
I will call out hate and racism when I see it. And I see a hell of a lot of it on this thread!

I hope you realise people are allowed to dislike someone for their personality or behaviour. It doesn't have to always come down to racism.

By that standard every white person Meghan dislikes is being disliked due to racism.

MorningMeditation · 15/12/2022 12:05

I think Harry and Meghan made the right decision to move away. Regardless of what’s happened, Harry clearly wasn’t happy in that life, who could blame him?

William is obviously brainwashed into the Royal way of life and whether he’s happy or not, he is clearly going to fulfil his ridiculous, outdated duties and believes in it all and likes the protection it gives him to do bad stuff. I do wonder why people still want the RF in place.

They’re very different people, they’d have drifted apart at some point.

justgettingthroughtheday · 15/12/2022 12:05

Coxspurplepippin · 15/12/2022 12:01

'Would you be happy having cameras on you 24hrs a day? On your children?'

But this doesn't happen does it? Plenty of other members of the RF seem to go about their days without having cameras on them unless they're doing official duties. There are occasional pictures of William and Kate's children but they're not photographed 24 hours a day.

It all seems to be very dramatic and exaggerated.

But it was happening!
If you go back to that time and look at the headlines at least once a week often more they were headline news.
If they weren't headline news then there were snide references to them in the media or on social media.

Coxspurplepippin · 15/12/2022 12:05

There are loads of rumours about Meghan being a yacht girl.

So is it ok to believe that (I don't, before you have a go), if we are to believe the rumours about William?@

Or is it better not to trust rumours from either side?

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 15/12/2022 12:06

It says a lot about the dysfunctionality of the Royal Family that brothers in their late 30s were reduced to screaming and shouting at each other - brothers who have never had to want for anything material, never had to worry about putting food on the table, heating their homes, clothing their children. I don't think I've shouted or screamed at my sister since we were teenagers!

barneshome · 15/12/2022 12:07

Why on earth does anyone care about this soap opera
Why be so interested in someone else's family squabble

Unbridezilla · 15/12/2022 12:07

I am not particularly a fan of either side and have been watching the documentary because I'm a sucker for drama.

I think h&m are both individuals who have been emotionally hurt in childhood by those around them (unintentionally) and that plays out in their responses now. Diana's death for H and M's parents divorce and her feeling pulled between two houses. She talks about constant rejection and the pain of that wrt acting jobs, but I was under the impression that was normal, so she is obviously sensitive to feeling unwanted. And the suits producer talked of her being "the glue" because she thought that M wanted to feel "a part of something"

The thing I'm struggling to understand is that M&H seem to have huge problems (rightly so) with the shittiness of the British press, who everyone knows are the pits. But they don't really direct cristism at the US/Canadian press at all, but they were also hounding her (surrounding the house, paying her dad for photos etc). Has that been explained anywhere that I have missed?

I think I'm trying to understand why they feel safe in the US despite the media attention M experienced there.

(And I'm not particularly interested in a glib "because they're lying" response, that's not helpful and I'm already aware that's many people's opinion)

barneshome · 15/12/2022 12:08

FrownedUpon · 15/12/2022 11:36

I think most people are sick of H&M’s whinging now. Brothers arguing is no big deal and I can’t believe Harry is framing it as ‘traumatic.’

Ah yes he will be saying soon it is affecting his anxiety
zzzzzzzzzzzz

SammyScrounge · 15/12/2022 12:08

felulageller · 15/12/2022 10:37

Ep5.
So that's the big accusation we've been waiting for.

Then a denial that he, Harry, denied William had bullied him and MM.

Denying that you denied it so implying it was true that William was bullying them?

Never liked William anyway. Hope he's never King.

You believe Harry?

CaramelizedNuts · 15/12/2022 12:09

Why is anyone even watching the fabricated bullshit ?

IDidntKnowItWasAParty · 15/12/2022 12:10

Oh dear, one brother shouted at another brother! Shock! Horror! Trauma! Hate! Racism!
No - just normal interactions in most families on occassion.

IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 · 15/12/2022 12:11

Same1977 · 15/12/2022 11:34

After leaving UK to have privacy and then jumping in front of the camera at every chance I don't believe anything those two say.They need to make money and of course they are not going to say we just didn't like coming second to anyone

They never said they wanted privacy. That is yet another lie about them.

Riddlemethisplz · 15/12/2022 12:12

im just waiting for them to sell their story to the sun or take a break, surely we’re just edging closer to that?

funny what one must do for cash when they stop taking money from the British state… and then moan about it.

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