Couldn't believe he flounced and then returned to flounce some more
I know, Eau!
Couldn't just let sleeping dogs lie - he had to go back and try to give her another kick. He just ended up making himself look a prat.
I wonder if the presence of the presence of cameras makes people unusually polite.
Very possibly Italian - though I still wonder if they are worried she will go NC, and they won't be able to be there to pick up the pieces when he dumps her. (I could see her "giving up everything for the man she loves" and being too proud ("principled") to backtrack afterwards.
Not sure they’d have words to describe NPJohn’s weird laughter...
Hoots?
I read Nasser’s open letter that was posted up-thread. Now we know he’s the devil I don’t think it’s breaking the rules to talk about his reference to Gab’s wig and implication that’s why he didn’t want to sleep with her?! Poor .woman deserved so much better. The one saving grace is, like everyone, I feel validated in my gut instinct
He's just a self-promoting POS.
When Nasser was obsessively sweeping the floor, he kept saying "there's a hair, that's your hair, oh there's another one of your hairs." I thought that was totally shocking, given Gab's issues with her alopecia
I missed that - it must have been when I was sorting out a dog. What a g*t!
There is no saving Tracey. She just doesn't want to see or hear it. Perhaps her friends and family have seen this sort of shit show before and know there is no point in pointing out the crap treatment.
I think you could be right Fella - and probably they've seen this all before and just know it has to run its course.
I blame his lovely friends. They were so nice and supportive; I couldn’t see how he would get such great friends if he was an arsehole.
I was the same - I thought "They're all lovely - they wouldn't put up with him if he wasn't" I was wrong
Telv and Sarah are the winning couple so far! She’s a bit controlling, but he’s so enamoured that he’s more than happy to have his life organised. She is a born matriarch.
Dead right - and actually, I have no difficulty in one partner being bossy if the other is happy to be organised, and it doesn't slide into bullying.
I reckon Tracey and Dean will stay to the bitter end and he’ll dump her once the cameras are off. The weakest of all endings.
Yes to this, too. What a shame Sarah's parents weren't the ones who adopted Tracey - she could do with the support of the Poundland Kray Twins.
I just don’t know what to think of Ash and Troy anymore. They were my favourites. Someone tell me what to think please.
FWIW, I think she is genuine and is a lovely person. I think he is a bit of a Boris Alexander DePfeffel Johnson (Oh look at me I'm such a card and a bit mad but you have to love me). However, like the Other, he isn't nearly as stupid as he pretends, and has a streak of cruelty and misogyny a mile wide that he is cleverly exploiting, going back to the "I really don't understand what I've done . . . I was so nice to her . . . she treats me so badly . . . what have I done wrong?" every time it looks as though he is going to get called out on it.
His surface charm carries him through day-to-day interactions with people and only the ones who have to spend any length of time with him get a glimpse of the real malice below the veneer. If you don't have to live with him, you think he's lovely - so much fun and so charming - if you do have to live with him you find that this charm is kept for other people.
I think most of us have encountered at least one man like that in the course of our lives.
He's confusing and gaslighting her. When she tries to assert herself, other people are undermining her, because they haven't seen who he really is. I'd love to know what the response of Ashley's friends and family was the they saw the footage and how he mocks her about all the time. She's tried really hard - treating him like the amiable toddler he pretended to be at first, but then found herself becoming more and more frustrated because he PUSHES until he gets an adverse reaction. No matter how she tries to appear and work with him, he takes it another step further until she reacts and then it's "What have I done? I tried to do what she wanted . . . " And so on, ad infinitum.
He is just as nasty as Nasser and Thumbface, but in a different way.
I personally think it's great that people leave at the first sign of trouble - because the "first sign" of a cheater, abuser, violent partner etc is NEVER the "last sign
Yes! This nonsense is for minor arguments, not fundamental betrayals
Yes to these comments.
Tracey's parents are weak as water. I'll bet they've never stuck up for her at school, or against bullies, or even suggested that she should have more contact with her DD. (It's unusual for the mother to be the non-resident parent - or at least not to have 50-50 contact.)
She's a very sad girl.