claire verity part 2

[Lorayn]

Too many bloody posts on the other one, I cant post!!!

well that worked well I chopped a zero off!
www.nmc-uk.org/aArticle.aspx?ArticleID=2650

looks like finally there will eb something done about the misuse of the title Nurse...and not a minute to soon!

I watched last nights on sky+ a moment ago
I thought it was awful and I didn't like the methods at all.
I parented my daughters by instinct and allowed them to fall into a routine which they did by the time they were 2 months old. I did none of the methods on the programme. I could not abandon my child and leave it to cry for hours on end as was encouraged, but i could not have my child permanently attached to me either.
One particular thing that struck me was CV speaking of the babies like they were teenagers! Saying that (paraphrasing) there was no way the babies would get the upper hand!!!!

Not sure if this has been posted already but here is the NSPCC definition of Child abuse.

'Emotional abuse

This is when adults deny children love or affection, or constantly threaten or humiliate them. Sarcasm, degrading punishments and ignoring a child are also forms of emotional abuse and undermine a child's confidence and sense of self-worth.

Neglect

This is when a child's basic need for love, food, warmth, safety, education and medical attention is not met by parents or carers.'

Surely the methods used where the babies are ignored, not fed when they are hungry, and not given cuddles when they are crying, are basically child abuse.

Spooky, yes CV obvioulsy gives a teensy Baby that, as common sense would tell us all reacts on pure survival instincts, a lot of thinking power, doesn't she...
I mena, come on, how is a teensy Baby gonna "manipulate" you...I mean, well, yes they are "manipulating" us, but in the way nature intendet

I have contacted the NSPCC but had zero response. I am really concerned that this isn't being taken up as a child protection issue. I won't give a penny to the NSPCC again until they ensure that Claire Verity gets proscecuted for neglect.

Pooh, don't think they could actually proscecute CV for neglect, as afterall, she is not the parent....

If she worked in a nursery or care home or hospital they could so why not?

because unfortunately she isn't a nurse - To be a nurse or midwife you have to pass a prescibed course of education set by the NMC and there are only 6 categories - RN in either adult,children's,mental health or learning disability, plus health visitor and midwife. Apart from qualified social workers, everyone else is unregulated and unregistered and doesn't answer to anyone unless they commit a criminal offence -in which case they answer to the courts(hopefully).
All she really is is a postnatal aide -not even a nanny because she doesn't 'care' for the children, just Ahemm advises the parents. But would anyone pay her £1K a day if she called herself that?
Lisa x

I know this is short notice but they have just said that Claire Verity is going to be on BBC Breakfast News very soon in about 10 minutes

she is on there now

If anyone is interested she's back on between 8.30 and 9am not an ideal time for those of you who have to get children to school but you didn't miss much from the first time she was on there

Oh what did she have to say? Was it bad editing, or is she really as horrid as she appears?

Just seen her - she is chastened. Now claiming that 'at the end of the day, this is a television programme and my methods are much, much more modern...'
She's on Radipo 5 Live now.

Also not calling herself a 'maternity consultant' and apologising for calling herself a 'maternity nurse".

Thanks for the tip-off for 5 live....she's weazling isn't she, seeing her career going down the pan..."OH your mum sounds fab" she has just said to a caller when she doesn't even know anything about her or her methods??

Someone from SIDS foundation on next.....

The thing about the phrase maternity nurse it that it does exist for someone who looks after a newborn. Just as in the olden days nannies were sometimes called nurses. But is easily confused with a registered nurse so should really be abandoned.

It's illegal to call yourself a registered nurse if you aren't, but not to call yourself a nurse.

She also said she hasn't had children "YET" but that she's aware of her bio clock ticking..... Is she only 41??? She should stay off the sunbed... I hope she does have a baby, it HAS to be a factor in her callousness, no mother could rough handle anyone's baby like she can...

sKerrymum- Yes. That is very cruel, how could you do that???

Ticktok she didn't say any of that the first time round then she was basically defending her methods, Daisy Goodwin was defending the programme and the lady from The Foundation for The Study of Infant Deaths was saying that new born babies should be in a cot in their parents room until they are at least six months old - this time she said (as you pointed out) she was just following Truby Kings's methods but she is much more modern, now she seems to be trying to disassociate herself from his methods which makes me feel rather IMO she seemed to be trying to shift the blame onto the programme makers i.e this was the method I was asked to follow.

I have not joined in this debate because I can not have children but I am very involved in the upbring of my nieces and nephew because I can not work due to ill health and their parents work full time. I just find all this very upsetting and annoying because this is a time when you should be enjoying and getting to know your new baby, sadly there are vulnerable people out there in different situations not just parenting who are influenced by the media.

Interesting that she changed her input from the first appearence, morgansauntie.....I think she is less chastened than I first thought, in fact, as she said very clearly on Radio 5 that the producers did not 'make' her do anything. In fact she said it so enthusiastically I wondered if she had been spoken to by the producers!

I do think that her career as a media star and supernanny is over unless her PR people can make something of the ashes by getting her to recant.

She could probably get a book deal out of the whole thing, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is on the cards. As her website shows very plainly writing (and spelling and grammar) is not her forte, so it would need to be ghosted. If she gets it right, she could use the book to recant.

I am currently watching the 2nd episode of bring up baby and want to cry and/or punch Claire Verity whenever she speaks. She's the spawn of the devil! I think she's become one of those people that everyone loves to hate/loathe/despise! I don't think people should be having a go at the parents on the show, most of them are first time mums, but even if they're not, being a mum is so hard anyway, that any advice is welcomed, even if only after hindsight you realise it's wrong wrong wrong and just plain mean!!!
What is the point of having a baby if the only reason you ever have any contact with "it" is merely to sustain it's life by feeding and changing it. And restricted cuddling? it's just so horrible I can't stand this woman. on the whole I am a happy and calm person, but Claire Verity makes my blood boil!

I didn't/haven't watched Bringing up Baby because I knew Claire Verity would be one of the so called experts. She is damaging beyonfd belief in my opinion, I mean Jeez, Ms Gina herself is bad enough in my book, by Claire is the Stalin of so called "baby care experts". It shows how low C4 will go, allowing this woman on our screens and why the heck did the parents allow their children to be subjected to it. I have never heard so much nonsense in my life, only cuddle your child for 10 mins and leave them to cry. It borders on child cruelty as far as I am concerned.

I am mum to two boys, both of whom have been brought up with love, cuddles and laughter and neither of them appear to be anything other than happy, well adjusted little tikes!

Sorry, bad first post I know but I just wanted to get it off my chest. I am so glad I am not the only one that would like to see this woman strung up and villified for her so called expertise. From what I know, she doesn't even have children herself, so does not understand just what emotions mothers go through.

Oh gosh.

I was idly wondering about the background of the paediatric consultant who worked with Channel 4 on this and I think I have just opened a can of worms.

Not sure what to make of this. I'm sure his main points - that there is a danger to practising paediatricians from public witch hunts inflamed by sloppy media exposure - is a valid one. But how does he then become involved in a circus like 'Bringing Up Baby'?

And what an incredibly poor choice of example in Roy Meadows!!!

Funny how he was so anti channel 4 back then as well - perhaps they've paid him well .
Lisa X