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Gentleman Jack

358 replies

unique1986 · 19/05/2019 19:36

BBC 1 9pm

Well well well Shock

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BettysLeftTentacle · 31/05/2019 20:39

I think I will. Thanks Smile

stumbledin · 01/06/2019 00:15

I have mostly enjoyed the episodes so far and have accepted that the portrayal of Anne Lister is based not only on what is known about her but the detailed records she kept herself in her diaries.

And there are many series where the main male character is flawed (eg that male reactionary Poldark!).

But I am sad that they (the BBC? the writer Sally Wainwright who was on newsnight yesterday) decided to do it as a sort of romp. A bit like (I may have remembered this wrong) Tom Jones with Albert Finney which as on the telly a while ago.

And I wonder if they have done this to almost make her a comic character to that it would be accepted in the US.

It would be such a different story if it was told as a personal drama. We see her at this point in her life as very (over?) confident. But how did she get to be like this, let alone accept and pursue being a lesbian. And did she feel that because she was that she had to be a bit masculine?

The bit I cant quite understand is why so many older women all see to accept and admire her. You would think given the social constraints of the time they wouldn't want to be seen as friendly towards her.

But I have to say I really enjoy her sister's reactions not only to what she does but also the (often very pompous) things she says!

desperatehousewife21 · 01/06/2019 07:27

I’ve downloaded the book on kindle I really like it! I love reading about people who were seen as a bit different. I love that she didn’t try and conform to society and just went for what she wanted. I don’t think she’s predatory at all.

maddiemookins16mum · 01/06/2019 20:27

I like it. Suranne Jones is very watchable in it.

longwayoff · 02/06/2019 18:08

I'm enjoying it, a bit of melodrama is perfectly acceptable here, so suits Suranne. There's not a lot of point in expecting 21c attitudes and sensibilities from historical figures, her character is revealed through her diaries. We dont have to like her do we?

howwudufeel · 02/06/2019 18:23

stumbledin Sally Wainwright has done her homework in this and I like the angle she has taken with it. There was another drama based on Ann’s diaries a few years ago starring Maxine Peake. It wasn’t particularly successful but from what you have said in your post it sounds like it’s probably more up your street. It may be worth you seeking it out.

LoafofSellotape · 02/06/2019 23:01

I don't like SJ usually but she's great in this. LOVED the looking at the camera this week,so funny 😂

LoafofSellotape · 02/06/2019 23:14

Music was fantastic in this episode.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 03/06/2019 09:07

Loved the scene with the letter in the drawer, make me chuckle.

LoafofSellotape · 03/06/2019 09:15

That was excellent!

DobbyTheHouseElk · 03/06/2019 14:15

The part with the tenant Farmer was difficult to watch. I wonder what will happen next with that storyline.

Bluerussian · 03/06/2019 14:30

Marvellous drama series! Well done to Sally Wainwright, Suranne Jones deserves an award and the rest of the cast is great.

Toddlerteaplease · 03/06/2019 15:04

I shut my eyes for the bit with the farmer!

Greeborising · 03/06/2019 16:06

A little bit that made me laugh was when Anne is getting out of the carriage when coming home from the wedding.

The coachman goes to open the door for her and there’s a delightful ‘dmff’ as she throws open the door 😁

CodenameVillanelle · 03/06/2019 16:25

I'm loving it! I think suranne is wonderful and anne lister is a very cool character. She's smart and independent and making her way despite prejudice and fear. I don't see her as being predatory with Ann as such - she's not overrun with prospects and Ann ticks the boxes. She's hardly likely to seriously chase a woman who isn't attracted to women - she'd be very good at spotting where there was potential. I think it would have been pretty cool to be a lesbian coming across Anne - she might be the first forthright and experienced lesbian they met!

LoafofSellotape · 03/06/2019 17:11

I thoroughly recommend the book mentioned up thread, it's a good read.

agapanthus1979 · 03/06/2019 17:17

What happened to the farmer?? Haas to miss the last 15 mins.

LoafofSellotape · 03/06/2019 17:28

It's on iPlayer,worth catching up!

UrsulaPandress · 03/06/2019 17:29

Re Sally Wainwright, there was something in the Telegraph the other day about whenever Stephen Poliakoff is mentioned he is always refereed to as The Dramatist Poliakoff but Wainwright is not afforded the same courtesy.

I'm enjoying it but I have to confess to finding the sex scenes uncomfortable.

Maybe I need therapy...

LoafofSellotape · 03/06/2019 17:31

I found them quite marvelousGrin

CodenameVillanelle · 03/06/2019 17:43

The son cut his throat and left him for the pigs to eat and they did Shock

agapanthus1979 · 03/06/2019 17:45

Urgh! Might avoid seeing that!!

CSIblonde · 03/06/2019 19:43

I think they're going for a sex comedy/ romp angle like Albert Finney in Tom Jones (that dates me). So it's all a bit of fluff really. Felt over long.

CoolCarrie · 03/06/2019 19:58

Daft question but I missed a lot of this episode Why did the farmer’s son kill him?

MyOtherProfile · 03/06/2019 20:13

Because he was threatening their livelihood by going to work drunk and arguing with AL.