GoT is actually disgusting, isn't it?

[Miljah]

In what way can it be described as 'entertainment'?

I seriously, don't understand why people happily sit down to watch the carnage, the immolation, the screaming children.

What is wrong with people?

As a point of information, I have actually read A Song of Ice and Fire. Which I suspect is more than many GoT fans have!

Sounds like that fiery destruction of Kings Landing is viewed as block-buster gratuitous violence, by die-hards!

Oh the Trump school of truthiness and fact.

Or are you concerned that despite the goady start point there was some interesting discussion taking place?

As a point of information, I have actually read A Song of Ice and Fire. Which I suspect is more than many GoT fans have!

That doesn't answer my point (or was it to someone else?)

So your comments about the violence are based on the reading of the books rather than the tv series?

"As a point of information, I have actually read A Song of Ice and Fire. Which I suspect is more than many GoT fans have!"

I have in fact read all of them before I'd watched the show. Do you think they should have shown the scene where Briennes face gets ripped off by someones teeth then? That was in the books.

As a point of information, I have actually read A Song of Ice and Fire. Which I suspect is more than many GoT fans have!

Ha what's that got to do with anything?! Although it's interesting you have no moral objection to written violence, and people "enjoying" imagining it while they read it, but showing it on screen is apparently gratuitous.

i have actually read A Song of Ice and Fire.

Erm, that’s the name of the incomplete series.

What exactly do you mean when you say that?

“So your comments about the violence are based on the reading of the books rather than the tv series?”

I’ve read the books- and watched a couple of episodes of each series.

You havent read a song of ice and fire, as pp said, it's an incomplete series. You have read some of the books.

Despite really disliking the violence in GoT, you watch a couple of episodes every series?

Why is written violence anymore horrific then when it's on TV? And why is the violence on TV ok ifbit was written in the book first?

Considering the books are much much more graphic in description and the characters a lot younger - how is that form of entertainment deemed ok?

watched a couple of episodes of each series

Since May 2nd when you had no plans to watch another episode?

16 episodes of "violent porn" in a fortnight? I admire your dedication.

If it wasn’t for the excessive violence -particularly the sexual violence I would love it. Fantasy, dragons, those dog things, complicated politics, lots of pretty people

Isn’t this an odd comment coming from someone who’s supposedly read the books?

Surely if you’ve read the whole series you’d have more specific reasons to watch the show than ‘those dog things’. And I’d kinda expect you to know what the dog things are

Ooh, trick questions!

Yes, I do watch a couple of episodes a series ( not this most recent one, though) because I don’t ever ban things I haven’t seen. (Ban in my house, I mean, before anyone gets up in arms ) And I am Interested in cultural phenomena. And I think I have read 5 books? I could go and check my bookshelves if you like, but I suspect that some of them will not have survived periodic culls over the last 20 years.....

Actually, I take that back. Probably an episode a series with an occasional extra one.

Why have you read all the existing books if you think the story is full of gratuitous violence? Or is it only on-screen violence you don't like?

Also, if you've read the books, how do you not know what 'the dog things' are called? And why do you think there are lots of pretty people - there are some, but most people are ordinary, or downright ugly. As in life, I suppose.

“Also, if you've read the books, how do you not know what 'the dog things' are called?“
I do really.

Ah, you were joshing us

Saying that, I did once forget what hobbits were and told someone abut the short, hairy-footed dudes in Lord of the rings

I have a suspicion that BertrandRussell secretly likes it. And she has a spreadsheet she's updating to monitor her predictions for the outcome.

because I don’t ever ban things I haven’t seen. (Ban in my house, I mean, before anyone gets up in arms )

But you have seen it. And you think the violence is gratuitous and pointless.

“But you have seen it. And you think the violence is gratuitous and pointless.”

I know I have seen it. I was explaining why.

I have a suspicion that BertrandRussell secretly likes it.

I suspect it's more not so secretly liking to be a contrarian and arguing for the sake of arguing. I've fallen into the trap before, it's generally a waste of time and energy.

I know I have seen it. I was explaining why.

So its banned in your house? You waited until the last series to ban it?

Watching it to keep up with modern culture, is ok?

Again, 10 episodes out the whole thing cant really tell you wether the violence was needed then.

SpeckofStardust yes I suspect you are correct. It's a bit odd watching her go round and round in circles.

The naysayers have really tied themselves in knots. Either they don’t know what they’re talking about because they haven’t watched it or they have watched it, which makes them just as unfit to walk amongst society as the rest of us.

It’s fine to decide GoT isn’t to your taste, and that you find the violence, sex and/or rape to be too unpleasant. I totally understand and feel the same about other shows or books or films. I’ll never watch The Exorcist because I know I’d find it too frightening and too upsetting. But I would never stand in moral judgement over those that do watch it. I wouldn’t seek to ban it, I wouldn’t jeer at its fans or shrink from sitting by them on the bus (fortunately, as like the OP I am married to someone who DID enjoy that film and as yet I have seen no signs that it has brutalised him in any form).

So, fine - say GoT is too bloody or too violent or too upsetting for you. That you don’t want to see something as shocking as a child being burned in any drama you choose to watch or that you avoid anything that depicts sexual violence. But not one person on this thread has offered a convincing argument as to why GoT is damaging, why it shouldn’t be allowed on tv or any degenerative effect it has been seen to have on anyone in society - even anecdotally.

Pornography - the evidence is there in spades for how it brutalises and desensitises men. To call GoT ‘basically porn’ is to dismiss the real abuse and rape inflicted on those in pornography and the victims of disgusting, porn-soaked men and boys. It’s not the same thing; it doesn’t have the same effect.

Go to another room when GoT is on, OP, and think twice before spouting a load of twaddle in the future!

I've been umming and ahhing about watching it, if I disliked the Spartacus series due to graphic violence etc will I dislike GOT?

I haven't seen Spartacus - umm, trying to think of a comparable series, maybe Rome - if you've seen that and didn't like it, you probably won't like GoT.