GoT is actually disgusting, isn't it?

[Miljah]

In what way can it be described as 'entertainment'?

I seriously, don't understand why people happily sit down to watch the carnage, the immolation, the screaming children.

What is wrong with people?

No one has really explained how GOT could show battles etc without showing any violence.

“No one has really explained how GOT could show battles etc without showing any violence.”

That’s because nobody is saying it should. HTH.

That’s because nobody is saying it should. HTH.

So the can show it, but no one should watch it?

There is a difference between “no violence” and “huge amounts of gratuitous graphic violence, including sexual violence”

That’s because nobody is saying it should. HTH.

Well, you said this upthread ...

No- we need to know it’s happened. We do not need to see it.

“No- we need to know it’s happened. We do not need to see it.”
I think I was referring to a specific incident, wasn’t I? I don’t think I have ever suggested that there should be no violence at all. If I have I didn’t mean to.

There is a difference between “no violence” and “huge amounts of gratuitous graphic violence, including sexual violence”

Ah so making it seem less savage, prettier, less horrific is somehow better? Let's pretend it's not quite that bad?

“Ah so making it seem less savage, prettier, less horrific is somehow better? Let's pretend it's not quite that bad?“

No, that’s not what I’m saying. I am saying that there is violence which is necessary and integral to the plot, and there is violence that is a “bolt on”. This applies frequently to sexual violence.This isn’t just on GOT- I have seen productions of Shakespeare plays where the violence is gratuitous.

Which violence in GoT do you consider a bolt on?

Maybe you can give us some examples?

I consider the level and the graphic nature of the violence is the “bolt on”. It’s no point trying to go into particular incidents because it would require a recall of places and people that I don’t have.

So you think its should be prettier up, made less savage and less like it would have happened then.

You are going round in circles. You say it doesnt have to be not shown, but doesnt have to be as graphic. But then say you arent saying it should be shown in a prettier light.

You talk about bolt ons that dont add anything. But cant name one.

So how do you know they dont add anything?

In North Korea the tv just shows lovely things and the leader saying he has won golf tournaments etc.

In reality he had his uncle killed by dogs!

That’s what censored tv will bring propaganda and an unrealistic view of the world.

Let people choose what can watch we have the joy of free speech and way of life.

This thread could be summed up as "I don't know the details of what this is but I'm against it!"

Fair enough, Ican. We’re never going to agree.

Fair enough, Ican. We’re never going to agree.

What's there to agree on. You just keep saying 'I am not saying that's despite actually saying that

I cant see a point to agree or disagree on.

This thread could be summed up as "I don't know the details of what this is but I'm against it!"

Yep!

I consider the level and the graphic nature of the violence is the “bolt on”. It’s no point trying to go into particular incidents because it would require a recall of places and people that I don’t have

Riiiiiight

“What's there to agree on. You just keep saying 'I am not saying that's despite actually saying that

I cant see a point to agree or disagree on”

No. You seem to be saying that I want no violence at all. And you keep repeating this, despite my attempts to clarify. So, no point in continuing the discussion- since you obviously think you know what I think better than I do!

I'm pretty sure none of us know what you're thinking

It's astonishing to see people insisting the violence is gratuitous, 'a bolt-on', but then admitting they haven't watched enough of the series, or read enough of the books to be able to identify instances of this happening.

And FWIW, I think violence that is hinted at, or glossed over, is actually much worse because it sanitises it. It makes it palatable and entertaining.

I dont keep saying you say no violence. You posted that no one said it shouldnt be shown.

So you dont mind it being shown

But dont think it needs to be as brutal as is shown

But also dont think it should be war should be shown in a prettier and better light than what actually happened in war, in medieval times.

So which is, not shown, shown in a better light, or shown in a realistic fashion?

I consider the level and the graphic nature of the violence is the “bolt on”. It’s no point trying to go into particular incidents because it would require a recall of places and people that I don’t have

Have you watched more episodes in the last couple of weeks? At that point you had watched one episode and found it

Yes and honestly I dont have a clue what you are thinking.

Not sure you do, so I cant know it better than you.

SOrry premature posting finger.

Should say "At that point you had watched one episode and found the sexual violence repulsive and never watched another episode."

Or are the comments based on your reading of the books?

I can't really think of a particular act of violence in GOT that wasn't needed for the plot or the development and understanding of the characters.

However the scene with Littlefinger and the two prostitutes wasn't needed.