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Madeleine documentary

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mentallyfacked · 14/03/2019 10:37

New documentary due to be released on Netflix on Friday.

I've covered this subject quite extensively while I was studying law. I will be watching with a heavy heart, it is just one of those cases I can't let go of sadly.

Anyone else going to be watching?

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Desperateforspring · 16/03/2019 14:57

How I don't know

I'm thinking she has Been chosen by abducter, known that they dine out frequently and leave the children. Anyone whose interest was sparked would see this Very quickly... perhaps kitchen, food people who also did kids club? I want too take the child... she's left alone...

So In her last drink at club... bit of sleeping tablet....she sleepy.. put to bed...see when there's a gap... in parent watch and simply Go and take her

ColeHawlins · 16/03/2019 14:58

I thought I knew where I stood on this whole thing. I've just finished episode 5 and now I don't know. All I know is the whole thing is a huge mess.

Heh! Yes I was beginning to wonder at that point.

Soubriquet · 16/03/2019 14:59

We know calpol does not have a sedative effect, so that one is easily dismissed.

It does sound like something was given, considering the twins never woke up once during the initial panic.

My children can sleep completely dead to the world, but I know if they heard people screaming and shouting and banging, they would wake up.

Soubriquet · 16/03/2019 15:05

I also love how someone says that an “intelligent and rational person would conserve the crime scene”

I’m reasonably intelligent but if I had spotted my child missing, my first thought wouldn’t be “ok, no one come in, there might be evidence” it would be oh god some one help me!!

H0wt0kn0w · 16/03/2019 15:10

Yes soubriquet, and at what point do you accept that it's a ''crime scene''. Immediately?! Unlikely!!! More likely you accept it was a crime scene only after you've looked all around the room, called out, looked around, rung everybody you can think of, waited to see if she came back.......

GoofyIsACow · 16/03/2019 15:11

I just find it incredible how little evidence of anything that there is... none of the theories seem overwhelmingly possible!
It’s desperately sad and whatever the reason she is no longer with her parents, wherever the blame lies, the fact is those parents no longer have their child and the child no longer has her parents, it’s heartbreaking.

PersonaNonGarter · 16/03/2019 15:15

OP, no one studies this on a law course Hmm

Prequelle · 16/03/2019 15:52

I think the way she said "they've taken Madeleine' was odd. I would have thought that alone would have led her to 'conserve the crime scene'

Decormad38 · 16/03/2019 16:00

I’ve always just felt for the parents. I wrote them a letter at the time saying how much I felt for them. Never done anything like that before but no parent wants to experience that loss.

MrsFassy · 16/03/2019 16:07

@Ozzybobgoblin It was after episode 5 I began to change my mind, too.

I think they'd been being watched. This was targeted. That the checks made weren't as often as they've been claimed and that the person(s) watching had seen the patio door was unlocked.

The theory of someone from the kids club could be a decent one. Someone there working in cahoots. Kate McCann even started herself afterwards she felt the twins had been drugged as neither of them woke through the commotion. Could it have been something as harmless as an antihistamine slipped into their food/drink, slow working which is what made Madeleine seem to tired that evening? A drugged, unconscious child would be much easier to take quickly and quietly than one likely to wake up and start making a fuss.

MrsFassy · 16/03/2019 16:09

Excuse the typos.

cometinmoominvalley · 16/03/2019 16:11

It's just so sad. The Portuguese police have a lot to answer for. Sheer incompetence and missed opportunities Sad.

pineapplebryanbrown · 16/03/2019 16:15

What about the woman who said the charity collector was fixated on her daughter and returned and was in her house. I suppose this is the vulnerability in being abroad and not speaking the language or understanding the system.

I know it's stupid but after MM i stopped holidaying on the continent and started going to the canaries cos at least they're islands.

TidyDancer · 16/03/2019 16:34

I'm watching this at the moment. I think the kids club drugging theory is probably the most likely I have heard. I think it is too improbable that it was random and opportunist on the spur of the moment. Who was to know that the children were being left in the evenings and the doors unlocked? Only someone watching repeatedly or who had contact with the family imo.

A very sad case. Sometimes I can't quite believe it's been as long as it has that she's been gone. Poor little thing.

user1457017537 · 16/03/2019 16:38

I disagree that the Portuguese police were/are incompetent. They may do things differently but UK police don’t exactly have a great record do they. It’s xenophobic to say they bungled the investigation.

cometinmoominvalley · 16/03/2019 16:57

I disagree that the Portuguese police were/are incompetent. They may do things differently but UK police don’t exactly have a great record do they. It’s xenophobic to say they bungled the investigation

Not xenophobic at all, have you watched the documentary? There were so many obvious fuck ups. Not just a case of doing things 'differently', and in any case I'm not privy to all the details of police procedure in the UK or anywhere else and wasn't making a comparison.

Desperateforspring · 16/03/2019 17:11

Testing for twins being drugged could have been done via hair sample?
If twins were given something then that would narrow down who had access to them too do that

ALannisterInDebt · 16/03/2019 17:24

If you've watched the documentary you can't deny how many mistakes the Portuguese police made.

As the investigation progressed they seemed more concerned with not looking incompetent, shifting the blame to British expats and even the parents, to the detriment of the investigation. They clearly became distracted by the media frenzy and international pressure.

Police developed a difficult relationship with the McCanns early on, who were desperately pulling all the punches they had. The desperate text Kate sent to a friend 'I have no faith in the Portuguese police, please help' sums it up.

Sadly I believe Madeleine was taken by someone watching the resort who took advantage of the parents slack childcare arrangement, she was probably dead within hours and buried in a backyard in Praia da Luz.

So sad, that this is just one of thousands of missing children in the world but has consumed so much money and manpower, the frenzy around this case has probably resulted in other missing children not getting enough publicity and slipping through the cracks. It needs to stop now.

Mummyoftwo91 · 16/03/2019 17:30

Just watched the whole series, I can't get over how they left the door unlocked to the apartment

Bowchicawowow · 16/03/2019 17:31

I think she wandered off looking for her parents.

Olga321 · 16/03/2019 17:35

I know it's stupid but after MM i stopped holidaying on the continent and started going to the canaries cos at least they're islands

You're right, it is stupid. You could just not leave your children alone in holiday accommodation - locked or unlocked - at night.

NorthernRunner · 16/03/2019 17:41

bow that’s what I think.

Andylion · 16/03/2019 17:42

I've watched the first four episodes. I watched while doing other things, ans, as I don't see well, I missed when most participants were identified onscreen. There was a minister/priest and (I assume) his wife. Are they friends the McCanns met after Madeleine disappeared? I believe the woman spoke of arriving there with children. As the McCanns are Catholic and the man has a wife, he can't be their priest.

Andylion · 16/03/2019 17:43

Sorry, my post above is really badly written. i'm at work. Blush

Mrskeats · 16/03/2019 17:46

Thanks mummy
Just had an argument with someone who said there is nothing wrong with leaving kids that age in an unlocked apartment (by a road)
I can’t understand anyone doing that with kids of 2 and 3.