Endeavour.... SPOILER ALERT

[Elderflower14]

Starting again tonight!
DO NOT like his moustache!! 🤔

Anton Lesser is great isn't he?

When he walked out saying that he had a child to find-so sad thinking that his character's daughter had died.

I was perturbed by the number plate on the Austin 1100 police car - it looked like it had been printed on a laser printer, and didn't follow any format of UK numbers that we have had.

Also v impressed at the idea of wandering towards a bolting horse just armed with a bit of rope!

Shaun Evans must find it a bit of a comedown driving an Austin 1100 after the Jag. Or maybe it's a relief; I think I read somewhere that that Jag is very hard work to drive.

I loved the minty coloured police car. so cute!

I remember those police cars!

I thought it was a superb episode.

What happened to Thursday's son (Sam??) He wasn't in it a lot but he never even gets mentioned in passing now.

Sam is doing his national service and I believe the unit has gone to Germany, so he's probably not in constant contact.

Has Win returned home for good or just visiting? I assumed home for good but talking about it with DM yesterday and she pointed out that Win was dressed more nicely than normal and was just sat in front of the tv- could've been visiting.

I do enjoy Endeavour-I suppose the problem with prequels is you know how it all ends up!

Speaking of which-the actor who played Mr Tingwell was in The Remorseful Day, wasn't he?

Loved the Led Zep at the start!

I can scarcely remember the Morse series though (they must have been on in the 80s/90s?), although I do have a vague notion that he died? Know that my parents, who are avid fans of both Morse and prequel, say that they can't quite 'tally' Endeavour with his older self (which probably fits with what a PP suggested about 'darker things to come').

"they can't quite 'tally' Endeavour with his older self "

Yes, I've thought that a couple of times, but then it might just be getting older & not suffering fools.

Although I think we see a little of that with Endeavour-his intellect meaning he's always explaining to others what's obvious to him-must have been wearing to still be doing it 20 odd years later!

I've seen a few Morse episodes recently, mid afternoon when I wasn't at work. ITV 4 I think. I watched some of it when it was first shown, it's interesting to compare the two now. It started in 1987 so I can't imagine there'll be too many more series of Endeavour as it would be getting perilously close to that period and he would be nothing like the person Morse became.

they can't quite 'tally' Endeavour with his older self

I don't think younger Morse is in any way like older Morse. I find it quite distracting and do my best to pretend it's a separate character. Tbh I'm not a massive fan of the guy who plays mini Morse. He seems a bit vacant.

NewModel, Morse is regularly rerun on ITV3 and probably other channels.

ITV player?

Youtube?

To be honest, I mostly think of them as separate characters really, as I've forgotten most of the original Morse ones now anyway. I just enjoy them as a new series.

I hope they keep on with Endeavour for a few more seasons, as they don't have to move on too many years really - you could have a lot of crimes within a couple of months or something, and spin out a year or two into many series! Everyone knows that time periods in TV are a bit fluid anyway.

I think Shaun Evans is a very good actor, he shows glimpses of the melancholy, lonely older Morse. If you read the early Morse novels, though, the character is not quite like the tv version, he is more cheerful and ordinary. But the later books are more like the series! Think Colin Dexter loved the dramatisations, and enjoyed the John Thaw version.

Watching a few on itv hub, thought there were more on here to watch any idea if there are or if I can see them elsewhere ?

I watched them all through detective blogspot but I think that page has gone now .

I keep wondering when McNutt will appear in Endeavour?
He was Morse's retired senior officer who was murdered in the very disturbing episode The Day Of The Devil. I had nightmares after watching it. Very interestingly it isn't shown when episodes are shown during the day... 😲

My ex-husband discovered the Morse books in the library long before the TV series began. I think all of Morse, Lewis and Endeavour are really well done, and always merit a 2nd or even 3rd watching.

Love this show, and have to admit to a low level crush on Roger Allam. Anton Lesser is sublime as Chief Inspector Bright, but he’s always so good. Rewatching Wolf Hall at the moment, he’s fantastic in it.

Elderflower14 they obviously edit down for the day viewings, but try to leave them comprehensible, after a couple of early edits were famously nonsensical. That episode sounds like it will be too much of a challenge to edit for day time tv and still make sense, if it's that gory!

Annoyingly no Morse and barely any Lewis on free ITV player atm, and not that many Endeavours either, certainly not the later ones.

I remember The Day of The Devil-Keith Allen, Harriet Walter & Richard Griffiths.

diddl was just coming on to ask if the devil episode starred Keith Allen, he kept changing his appearance & was Richard Griffiths the vicar? I watched so many of Morse multiple times I get muddled up with them.

Wasn't McNutt in Masonic Mysteries?

Yes, he was and was played by Scottish actorIain Cuthbertson, who also played the daddy in The Railway Children, it will be interesting to see who the producers would cast in that role now, as Iain Cuthbertson was very tall.
There are 33 episodes of Morse, and 33 of Lewis as Kevin Whately said he would only do the same amount , so maybe it will be the same with Endeavour.