Lassies of Fraser's Ridge - Outlander Season 4, there's spoilers in them thar hills.

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A new adventure awaits us in the New World. It's going to be savage!

So happy for Murtagh! I really like him he's the best.
Hoping RR will pick up a bit I have loved him in other things... He was so rude tho.
(Didn't realise Claire had a wig!!!!)

Love, love, loved the last episode although did find the German/Cherokee storyline very disturbing, especially the final scenes. Another Murtagh fan happy that he's back and liking the silver fox look. I've found the US portions quite hardgoing this season, and have looked forward to the Bree/Roger parts more (except the bits where Roger is being a dolt) - looking forward to the next one!!

I loved the cabin! I don't care if it's too perfect. In the books don't they make a basic cabin and then move into a bigger house, I wonder if they're just trying to bypass that.

qate the German/Cherokee storyline is disturbing, I think it's quite similar in the books. I suppose it shows a horrible reality of those times.

Part of me is reminded of the Little House books by Laura Ingalls Wilder, building the log cabin, bears, Indians etc.

The German storyline is similar in the books. Gerhart and his sons go and kill a few of the native Americans (I can't remember if they were Cherokee or Tuscarora). He pins their scalps up around his barn door! I suppose it's what happened then. There was a lot of conflict between the indigenous people and the interlopers.

I liked this episode but I was sad not to see John and William. Hh leads me to believe that we will see them next time, so that's good. The crazy ladies would go up in a blue lou if they missed that bit out.

Have I missed why Jamie is touting one of Ellens candlesticks around silversmiths? (apart from so that yon hussy can make eyes at him every time she answers the door)

I was wondering if the hussy is an early incarnation of Malva?

Candlesticks are not in the books. I presume Jamie wasn't selling it, must be either questioning its authenticity or using it as bait for something

I like the John and Willie scenes in the book, glad they're coming.

I've haven't really been paying attention but is he trying to make a ring from the candlesticks? He asked if Murtagh did silversmithing.

I presume he's going to replace the wedding ring that was stolen (it was Franks in the book but she was still wearing that in that last episode. Correct me if I'm wrong, which I probably am.)

I seem to remember seeing on tumblr a photo of Claire from this season wearing a wedding ring that is more like the one described in the book that Jamie has made for her.

I thought maybe he wanted to get a ring made for Claire.
John and William are in the next episode according to the trailer. Looking forward to that.

Brianna should bring back Jamie's ring though- that's what lures her to whatshisface.

The astounding ugliness of RR's hat deserves another mention

I had a wee giggle because I was watching with the subtitles on and at one point as Murtagh starts to speak to the gathered people the subtitle said “speaks Gaelic”. Except he actually said ‘haud yer wheesht’ which is very much not Gaelic. 😂

I was ranting at that, Piff. If they won't translate the Gaelic, they could at least get it right when it's being spoken.

I think Jamie might be getting a new ring made for Claire. He might only want a little bit taken from the candlestick from a place that it won't be noticed?

‘haud yer wheesht' I noticed that too!
At least they have improved from the first series where the subtitles read "speaks other language"

There's a preview of E6 on YouTube Starz and John and William are most certainly in it. It looks as if William gets into trouble with the Cherokee.

JennyfromtheBroch I also wondered if that was going to be Malva too.

And why can't the subtitles translate the Gaelic? They translate the Cherokee.

I wonder if the new ring, is going to be more like the one in the books.

I assumed it was going to be a ring.

“Haud yer w”....I heard it too, but isn’t it G? Love older Murtagh.

I enjoyed that episode. I think it was the first one this season that I can really say that about. The others have been okay, but a bit meh. Claire was less ridiculously annoying, Jamie was less sappy, and Murtagh turned up. I thought the storyline with the German family and the Cherokee was well done.

But but but how come they hadn't written to each other in 20 years? Murtagh could'very written to Jenny - he knew Ellen so wouldn't he have known Jocasta? Ok so as an indentured servant he wouldn't have been galavanting around North Carolina but he could have written, surely?

Also, they seem to be junking the whole thing were the original tenants were all rounded up from Ardsmuir bit - which gave the back story of Jamie the Leader in prison and then Jamie the Laird on the Ridge, who they all foĺlow into battle because he's such a wonderful manly leader to whom they owe their lives etc etc. I'm wondering how that's going to work?

Maybe we'll get more about Murtagh, now he's shown up on the Ridge? Also, I wonder if he'll end up using his Ardsmuir contacts to help settle in the end.

DG write Jamie as this miraculous man mountain that can turn his hand to anything, make all men follow him etc so to see the farmers say Nah mate was off-book. However I am thinking that if that was stage 1, and stage 2 tv is that the Ardsmuir men do come back to hero worship him - perhaps the tv people are thinking ahead to cutting out the huge swathes of the later books. The bits where the war is ON! No it's off! Oh look a battle, let us hang around here, let us coincidentally bump into all these characters suspiciously frequently, let us brilliantly win all these battles/save all these patients, let us travel around America lots, oh look it's muddy - perhaps they are trying to save us from all of that and condense it a little. They've got the go ahead for 2 more seasons, I bet the actors don't want to drag it out either.

I'm feeling quite hopeful

I reckon Murtagh will now send out letters to all the Ardmuir men and they will come to Frazers Ridge.

I agree it is odd that Murtagh didn't write to Jenny, but it isn´t the only odd thing that happens, let's face it. Remember the scene when Claire finds out about Laoghaire and she and Jamie have a row at Lallybrough? Well, it is loud enough to make Jenny come in to the room, yet somehow she doesn't hear what they are actually saying, as if she did she would know Claire´s secret...

I did find it a bit odd in that episode that Claire burnt the old woman's heart. First of all, would it not have been better to give it back to her family to bury according to their customs? And secondly, would burning it not have made the house smell?

It was her scalp, not her heart.

but it's not the* only odd thing that happens, let's face it

^^So true.

I think the beauty of the books is Claire and Jamie's relationship, the melodrama (in the best sense) and excitement with a strong dose of gritty realism. The plotting sometimes leaves a bit to be desired and the tv show certainly smooths a lot of the plot lines out and rounds out some of the minor characters.

I wonder if they're trying to streamline the Regulators/Ardsmuir men/complicated political situation/American Revolution a bit to make it more watchable.

It was her scalp? I obviously wasn't watching closely enough (I was knitting at the same time). In any case, she still could have given it back.

What’s HH?
DryWhiteagainW “Haud yer wheesht” is Scots. Still in fairly common use in Scotland, particularly when talking to children.

If Ma and Pa German were both immune to measles how did Petronella and the baby get it? Did the uncle catch it in town and bring it back?

I love the face of the Native American chief, it’s mesmerising. The scalp was so grim.

I like Jamie in his glasses . Murtagh’s accent annoys the fuck out of me though, not massively delighted to hear him again. But I did laugh at Young Ian rolling over so easily on the 21 shillings and Murtagh’s sarky comment- “ah, a fine lad, he drives a hard bargain!”

HH is Heughan's Heughligans, Sam's Facebook fan group.

Did Herr Mueller say that he had had measles as a child? The brother must have brought the infection back from town. Much easier to blame the stranger, though, isn't it. I hope the epidemic doesn't spread to the Native Americans and wipe out their village like it does in the books.

Murtagh's accent really grinds my gears, but I suppose that's what you get when you have English people playing highlanders. It's not as bad as some of the accents in season one were, though. Mrs Fitz, for example, had a truly comedy Scots accent. My worry about Murtagh is how his return will impact on Jamie's character growth. Will their dynamic impinge on his development as a leader, perhaps. I suppose we just need to wait and see.

As for "haud yer wheest" that must come out my mouth a dozen times a day! And I have passed it on to DD who can be heard saying it to the cat when he is creating and she is scunnert with the racket.

I think the measles came with the doll. Did you notice what a bit deal there was made of it?