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Lassies of Fraser's Ridge - Outlander Season 4, there's spoilers in them thar hills.

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Lessstressedhemum · 05/11/2018 11:20

A new adventure awaits us in the New World. It's going to be savage!

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JennyfromtheBroch · 17/12/2018 19:49

Ach it's no Outlander without Jamie and Claire, but having said that, I actually really enjoyed it. The scenery at the beginning was beautiful- I wondered if they wanted snow or it was the Beast from the East!

Loved L (can't spell it) and Joanie (what a beautiful child).

Lizzie is PERFECT, great casting.

I loved the scene at the end with Lizzie's dad and Frank on the quay, thought it was very nicely done and quite touching.

Florabella · 17/12/2018 20:03

I haven't seen this week's yet, but do we think the the J and B meeting will be in next week's episode or will we have even longer to wait?

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Lessstressedhemum · 17/12/2018 20:49

Yes, the crazy ladies think that the books are "perfection" and that the writers have some sort of "agenda" to make Jamie weekend generally mess with that "perfection". It's all a bit pathetic really and they could ruin things for everyone with their whinging and nastiness.

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sonjadog · 17/12/2018 21:05

I enjoyed that episode. I liked the flashbacks with Frank. Not only is it great to see Tobias Menzies on screen again, but I feel it fleshed out the back story well. I think the guy playing Bonnet is good. Really sinister. I haven't seen Downton Abbey though, which may help.

sonjadog · 17/12/2018 21:06

I also liked the more sympathetic portrayal of Laoghaire. It makes her seem much more real that the book portrayal.

DryWhiteagainW · 17/12/2018 21:55

I’m convalescing and think I might do a binge back to back of this season so far tomorrow ........

Holidayshopping · 17/12/2018 22:27

Just watched it. I was really looking forward to the Lallybroch bit but as I knew the Jenny actress wasn’t in it, wasn’t too disappointed. I did love that bit in the book though-just her getting to spend some time getting to know them all.

Bonnet is brilliant and I am enjoying it all.

cardoon · 18/12/2018 07:55

I can't remember - do Jenny and Iain know that Claire is a time traveller?

crumpet · 18/12/2018 08:35

No, notat the moment

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Lessstressedhemum · 18/12/2018 10:13

No, they think that she has been in the Colonies. Jenny kind of thinks that Claire is a faery.

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BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 18/12/2018 15:28

Didn't recognise Roger without his beard!
I'm afraid this episode irritated me quite a bit - Brianna apparently walking from Inverness to an unnamed port (somewhere well south on west coast) yet walks cross country rather than on roads, then limps for days through the woods on her twisted ankle without thinking of using a branch as a crutch or stick. She has a map but doesn't realise that she is near Lallybroch?
And I'm afraid the constant bumping into important yet unfamiliar characters is getting beyond a joke (unless there are 16 Stephen Bonnets)

GreenHillOpposite · 18/12/2018 18:05

I thought similar, especially about the crutch. Funny how we don't have any problem with the time-travelling through stones bit! Grin

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Lessstressedhemum · 18/12/2018 21:48

She was supposedly heading for Ayr harbour, about 20 miles south of here. I don't know why she wouldn't have come to the harbour here if she was going so far. My town was a major seafaring port in those days and was clearly marked on her map. It's odd, there were plenty nearer places she could have taken ship.
The coincidences are out of control in the books. It's a bit mental.

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AngeloMysterioso · 18/12/2018 22:46

I thought the same thing too, when she was hobbling through the woods, like jeez woman just get a branch or something to lean on!

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 18/12/2018 23:01

It was nice to see Frank again (apart from those nerdy glasses which don't suit him). I know he was written as an arse in the books but I liked TV Frank. Yes, I know he had affairs but from his viewpoint... His wife buggered off for several years, returned pregnant with some other blokes baby and made it clear that Frank was a poor replacement for her vanished lover.

FairfaxAikman · 18/12/2018 23:04

There's no way Brianna would be able to tolerate having her whole foot in a Scottish burn in winter - she'd get bloody frostbite.

LonelyOversharer · 19/12/2018 00:43

I think I liked that episode, on balance. Her waking up in Leghairs house, unexpectedly creepy! Yy to beautiful hair.

How odd that the lady who plays Jenny couldn't/wasn't in it. She must have been very busy to turn down the work...she is pivotal at Lallybroch.

I always thought of Lizzie as a frail little bird like girl, and very, very blonde. To see a big strapping lassie looked out of place, especially when her dad seemed just right.

Bonnet isn't doing it for me, but he isn't supposed to. I'm guessing we're heading for a full Roger story as we have him hiding the McKenzie lassie and her baby? They meet again later, and it all goes wrong for Roger from there doesn't it??

Last weeks was a bit meh. All the measles and competative Jamie love. With the books sooooo long, and the episodes short, it does seem like we are galloping through it v v quickly. Lets hope they cut the gathering from 300 pages seemed like it anyway to about 10 minutes, that will be s5 though?

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Lessstressedhemum · 19/12/2018 07:45

Yes, the Gathering will be the start of season 5. Perhaps they will condense the longest day in history.

I can't see how they are going to fit everything into the next 6 episodes, to be honest. They must have cut a lot of stuff out. It's such a long book, with so much (superfluous) detail, it's hard to imagine squashing it all down into 13 50 minute episodes.

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BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 19/12/2018 09:11

I'm afraid one detail that annoys me in most period drama is the profligate use of candles.
If Leerry was so poor, each candle would be lit as required and people would carry their single candle from room to room. Candles weren't left burning in empty rooms on the off chance that someone would go in there.
(the dozens of candles left burning in Jamie's brothel room really irked me, ditto the print shop)

gamerwidow · 19/12/2018 09:51

I'm afraid one detail that annoys me in most period drama is the profligate use of candles.
To be fair though that’s a bit difficult to do on film because you won’t be able to see anything.
You are right though candles were very much a luxury as was everything really.

gamerwidow · 19/12/2018 09:54

It’s one of the things the books do quite well. Thinking about Jamie writing vertically in the gaps on his letters to Jenny so as not to waste paper or the women the making each other’s dresses for reuse.

AngeloMysterioso · 19/12/2018 10:26

And another thing- when Roger is at the harbour trying to get on the boat it is broad daylight, but when Brianna is at Laoghaire's at the same time, it is dark? What's that about?

sonjadog · 19/12/2018 10:36

I was irritated by the Brianna walk through the mountains too. Why’d she not just take the bus? Or hitchhike?

sonjadog · 19/12/2018 10:37

Oh no, wait! I just realised she was in the past at that time! I’d been thinking she was on her way to the stones. Duh!

snozzlemaid · 19/12/2018 11:07

Hahaha sonyadog. I was just going to say I'm not sure there were many buses around in the highlands at that time.
I said to dp that she needs to be more resourceful if she's going to survive in that time. Can't believe she didn't get a stick to help her walk.

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