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Lassies of Fraser's Ridge - Outlander Season 4, there's spoilers in them thar hills.

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Lessstressedhemum · 05/11/2018 11:20

A new adventure awaits us in the New World. It's going to be savage!

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Holidayshopping · 13/12/2018 15:58

Ah, ok-that doesn’t sound quite so bad then! Is it just a short book?

mateysmum · 13/12/2018 17:50

Not sure you can say Diana Gabaldon and short in the the same sentence!
According to Amazon it is 560 pages. So shorter than the big books.

crumpet · 13/12/2018 19:27

JessieMcJessie, yes, definitely helped by CGI. Think I read somewhere that they did some filming in Eastern Europe for scenery, but not 100% sure

Lessstressedhemum · 13/12/2018 23:45

According to some of the US HH, the scenery is partly a picture of the blue ridge mountains CGI'D into the actual scenery. Wherever it is, it is beautiful but it would be a tad more convincing if the river or waterfall actually moved!

The Scottish Prisoner is set during Jamie's indenture at Helwater . All in all its quite a positive book, even though he misses Claire terribly and is gut wrenchingly lonely. The ladies still all fancy him, some things never change. It's a good read, even without reading the first two and a half main books to set the scene.

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Lessstressedhemum · 15/12/2018 10:44

Just seen on HH, someone has watched ep. 6 21 times! How is that even possible?

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blibblibs · 15/12/2018 22:32

I've just seen the extended trailer for Mondays episode, I think it might have the book readers in a bit of a spin. HH should be fun tomorrow Grin

mateysmum · 16/12/2018 14:08

Do you have a link for that blibb?

blibblibs · 16/12/2018 14:43

Oh I'm rubbish at things like that Blush but if you go to Frasers Ridge on Facebook they have it there

Spongeface · 16/12/2018 21:39

Have just watched the new episode and I loved it! Don't want to spoiler it if no one else has seen it but it's different but good! Get watching!

SenecaFalls · 17/12/2018 01:20

I just watched it. More than one surprise. Smile

Piffpaffpoff · 17/12/2018 08:27

Watched it, loved it. Bit eye-roll-y at one point but it all worked out fine!

blibblibs · 17/12/2018 10:07

Just watched and was a little bored if I'm honest. Usually watch with DH and I'm a tad disappointed this is the one I chose to watch alone and will have to sit through it again.

Lessstressedhemum · 17/12/2018 11:04

Oh my, there is fun on Facebook over that episode. So many "fans" saying they are going to stop watching and that the show should be left to die a quiet death! Good grief, they act as of the books are some sort of Holy scripture.

I liked it. It was good to see a different side to Laoghaire. I think they are doing a good job of showing the complexity of Stephen Bonnet as well. Lizzie doesn't fit my mental picture. She doesn't look like a 14 year old waif, does she? She doesn't look like the kind of girl who would be involved in a menage a trois at allGrin

My only disappointment was that there was no Jamie in this episode, but, heyho, I will live.

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snozzlemaid · 17/12/2018 12:58

I thought Lizzie looked too old as well.

DryWhiteagainW · 17/12/2018 13:09

I liked it. Agree about Lizzie, too old and too tall. Love seeing Frank and all of the parallels. Didn’t really miss C and J although I can’t wait to see when J meets B.
Thought they have done a very good job with L indeed. Did that happen in the book? I can’t remember, thought B went straight to Lallybroch.
Stephen B is very good....did you notice he was wearing Claire’s ring on his little finger?

Lessstressedhemum · 17/12/2018 13:33

The Laoghaire thing didn't happen in the books. Brianna went straight to lallybroch and only met Laoghaire because she was there complaining about Jamie. In the book, Laoghaire has no redeeming features, she is basically just a scold and a whiny besom. Her character, in common with a lot of them, isn't very well developed. It was nice to see her rounded out, even if a lot of the crazy women don't agree.

All this talk of complaining to the channel and writing to the writers is only going to get the show cancelled.Sad

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WhoGivesADamnForAFlakeyBandit · 17/12/2018 13:57

I'm still struggling to see the actor playing Bonnet as anything other than the little boy servant from Downton Abbey. Even throwing children out of the window, he's too blonde and too ineffective.

Do the HH lot really think the books can't be improved upon? Have they actually read them? Grin I thought they played around nicely with things this week. Except for Lizzie, she needed to be smaller and blonder - so exactly the opposite of Bonnet! But perhaps if her story is going to follow the book's they wanted an older actress?

CourtneyLoveIsMySpiritAnimall · 17/12/2018 15:10

Her character, in common with a lot of them, isn't very well developed. It was nice to see her rounded out, even if a lot of the crazy women don't agree

Totally agree. Gabaldon introduces all these minor characters and they're nothing but ciphers. She should either concentrate on the major players or have fewer people milling about the plots and develop their characters a bit more.

As for this ep, I was a bit bored too although it was better then the books. Irrationally annoyed that Roger shaved his beard off as well Confused

Myfanwyprice · 17/12/2018 15:28

I did really miss Jamie this episode, it’s my Monday afternoon guilty pleasure! But I really enjoyed this episode, on a slightly shallow note, I thought Brianna and Joanie’s hair looked absolutely beautiful.

SenecaFalls · 17/12/2018 15:35

I liked seeing Brianna in Claire's coat. That was a nice touch from the costume department.

quirkychick · 17/12/2018 16:17

I really liked it and agree with Lessstressed it's nice to see both Laoghaire and Brianna rounded out. The way they're written in the books must make it hard for actors as they're both a bit two dimensional. I like Brianna more and more in this Season, actually. I think that's going to be important for us to sympathise with her later.

I always loved that coat SenecaFalls I want one.

I'm not sure yet about Stephen Bonnet or Lizzie.

DryWhiteagainW · 17/12/2018 17:18

I think Bonnet is good. The proper Irish charmer/bastard behind nice face. He’s v sinister

gamerwidow · 17/12/2018 18:59

Her character, in common with a lot of them, isn't very well developed. It was nice to see her rounded out, even if a lot of the crazy women don't agree
Agreed, Laoghaire has actually had quiet a difficult and sad life but she's allowed no empathy in the books. She just there to be a thorn in Jamie's side and so Claire can be smug because Laoghaire has got fat and she hasn't.

FairfaxAikman · 17/12/2018 19:10

The reverence that the books are held in annoys me. I stopped reading after about the fifth one because they became shite so convoluted. I actually think the tv series has been a vast improvement on books three and four.

crumpet · 17/12/2018 19:32

The team are getting a bashing on Twitter again for changing the book. It was another good episode - if I ruled the world I’d have rearranged things to have the pearls showdown with Ian and Laoghaire at Lallybroch, but the key themes from the book were all drawn out, so it worked fine. Enjoyed the Frank flashbacks and the episode has moved things along nicely.

(It’s also good that the Sophie Skelton bashing has mostly abated since this episode - the frothers have been very unfair to her ever since she appeared at the end of season 2)