It's that Homeland time of year again

[Hassled]

It feels so long ago that poor Weaselly Quinn met his maker that I had to Wiki what happened last season. We were left with an easily-led Madame President, an assassination plot, Saul in prison, Quinn dead in a Jeep and Carrie's distraught face working on overtime.

But it's back! Feb 11th US which I reckon means Feb 18th UK (although last year Channel 4 didn't tell us till about a minute before kick-off, despite my pathetic emailing). . Yay!

NellMangel yes I thought Dante also was going to attack the sister. Thought the same about Carrie's hair after a night- looked freshly washed and straightened!

Zilphas yes the Saul dad look!

A couple of things- take it Dante's ex phoned him about Carrie visiting although she called herself Karen Harris??
Also has Saul ever worked with Max previously, does he know him, I can't remember.

Also agree about poor Franny, she has been dragged around so many different places.

I think old bug eyes put 2 and 2 together and realised it would be Carrie.
It completely passed over my head about Ken and the President.
I thought he was just trying to mininise his relationship to prove he hadn't passed on any state secrets to the pesky Russian .

Potentially coco but it was the way the camera focused on those words in particular that made me think unrequited love.

v pleased I saw nothing else bulging.

yuck!!

Saul knows Max. I forget the details but they do know each other. I think he was working with max when max went undercover last season in the big office block place where strange accent man was broadcasting from. He knows carrie works with him in secret which is why he knew to go and kidnap him in his apartment.

Carrie took franny there so she could get another snoop as they had to cut the first time short
She said “I need to get back in there “

Big eyes has carrie’s number. He knew exactly what she was at. He knew why she was there. The sex was to distract her and let her think he was only interested in her romantically. But he knows her, he knows how she operates.

bug eyes!

Thanks for filling me in with details. I didn't click about the President and Wellington, think she thought he was one of the few people she could trust.

Have only just watched. You're all bastards, being mean to poor old INFERNO HOT Dante

I thought at first that Carrie would go to Max's. He loves her, right? Like Barlow loves the Pres?

She is like the black widow - her shags all die/get captured. I said it was Elian who died in Pakistan, but the name was wrong. It was Aayan - poor, young, deaded and forgotten Aayan.

This being Homeland I suppose there may be more twists & turns.

King Ecbert/Wellington turned out to be weedy & not a sinister villain. Dante may have been played.

Only things guaranteed are Carrie being wobbly of chin, shaky of voice & being a shit mother. And Saul being good, obviously

And that Dar will reappear at some point - though I've just seen him in The Good Fight, bit part but maybe he got day release.

Saul must know Max from the Virgil days, when there was a Scooby van but just the 2 of them, no gang & they moonlighted for Carrie bugging Brody's house.

I think the decline of the credit card at the motel is significant again. Carrie is deeply in debt and has cut off her lines of credit and help (sister). She's going deeper downhill...

I wonder if Frannie will be removed again?

it's just like the early series - Carrie was drawn to Brodie, the double agent.

Same again with Dante. Is he or isn't he? We're certainly meant to think he's a bad guy - otherwise why would he have lied about his first wife being bipolar & his drinking.

Is Carrie's sister really Karen? As surely Carrie could have insisted that she was both Carrie and Karen.
Her spy skills are slipping.

In one of the series Carrie went downhill in collusion with Saul. Maybe this time she does it for real.

Big eyes has carrie’s number. He knew exactly what she was at. He knew why she was there. The sex was to distract her and let her think he was only interested in her romantically. But he knows her, he knows how she operates.

I'm surprised they didn't do a rerun of that scene between Chandler and Phoebe when they were both pretending to be attracted to each other, because she wanted him to confess to be in a relationship with Monica.

Carrie continues to boggle me. Why would she shag Dante, knowing who/what he probably is? I can see why Saul gave her his trademark "more in sorrow than in anger" look.

Also that experience is now presumably going to result in even more years of therapy for poor Frannie. She's already suffered enough, and that's without knowing her father was a jihadist with a conscience. Once she learns to google she'll be done for.

Why would she shag Dante, knowing who/what he probably is?

Same as Aayan. She needed to keep him on side. distract him from his feelings of suspicion.

I think Carrie has under estimated Bug Eyes.
She thought the shag was distracting him but he was about to probe her just as Saul et all came barging in.

Oh totally. While she was distracting him, he was doing exactly the same with her. He was working her.

Signing in. No snacks tonight.

Frannie is going to tell the teacher. She doesn’t trust her Mum.

Ooh is Paley in on the scheme?

Whyyyyy does Saul always give into her?

...and then she messes up, and Saul,is kicking himself.....