The Crown - series 2 on Netflix

[southeastdweller]

Starts next Friday - anyone else excited?

Trailer here:

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/the-crown-season-2-netflix-trailer-claire-foy-jfk-jackie-kennedy-release-date-a8040486.html

Just checking in.

I loved it. I’m not a huge royalist but the whole thing is glorious.

I really feel for Princess Margaret. I read a quote from the book about her. She was asked how the Queen was and she replied ‘do you mean my mother, my sister or my husband?’

There is a Desert Island Discs episode on BBC iPlayer with Princess Margaret. She is quite haughty but it is very clear that she has been pandered to, all her life, and she is irritated by people sucking up to her.

Good for her. As PP have said, she was born at the wrong time.

She had a sad end.

Right just finished them all!

I have a question....

When Elizabeth gives birth to her third child she appears to be asleep, yet it doesn't look like a csection? Can anyone enlighten me?

lascelles she had a cocktail of drugs known as twilight sleep. babyology.com.au/news/were-still-recovering-from-the-queens-twilight-birth-scene-in-the-crown.html

Oh dear, that would teach me not to read things properly! It was the PM bit that threw me

Thanks StinkyBat I never knew that. That's a crazy type of birth isn't it? I can see why women went for it though as sounds so appealing!

How do you push a baby out if you are unconscious? Surely even with forceps you’d still need to push on a contraction?

I guess you can still get a baby out if the woman is dilated and contracting... What condition the mother and baby are in afterwards is probably the reason they stopped doing it.

Was that based on fact, I wonder?

I've just finished season two, it was such a treat. Also wondering about the births. As when she gives birth to Edward at the end it appears to be a normal conscious delivery. And with Philip present not playing squash!

Yes, the contractions still pushed the baby down even when the woman was barely conscious & the forceps did the rest. The drugs put the baby at risk though so this had mostly stopped by the 50s.

Just finished series 2 , loved it so much although is has strengthened my anti royal opinions .

I read up on the twilight birth thing after I watched that episode as I had never heard of it before! Apparently by the time she had Edward they didn't really do it anymore due to the risks to the mother and the baby. I think more research had been done into it by then.

Well I enjoyed it up to episode nine but that was just such depressing guff that I lost all patience with it and then episode ten was even worse. How many windows can Claire Foy look sadly out of, one asks oneself?

Nobody blamed philip for his sister's death. That was just silly.

Yes episode 9 was hard going

How many windows can Claire Foy look sadly out of, one asks oneself?

That made me LOL! I'm rewatching series 1 which has made me realise how depressing series 2 is.

I've nc'd for this as it's mildy outing but my father was at Gordonstoun with PC. The netflix clips I've shown him have had him gleeful as he loved his time there and really thrived. Apparently it's not to far away from how it really was at that time. My DC's would love to go if it wasn't so far away thank god. The fact that my father went there at the age of 9 by overnight sleeper train and rarely saw his parents is why I forgive him an awful lot of his behaviours!

Anyway, glad to find my tribe, I've adored the series as well as Victoria and now speak a very clipped form of English without moving my mouth a lot and a repertoire of 'oh's' . I love how stories like this draw you in even though you have a broad idea of where they are going anyway. I was tearful at Victoria and Albert's proposal, desperate for him to say yes!

Roll on the next episodes although there won't be a better Phillip than Matt Smith I don't think. Anyone know if there are more Victorias to come as well?

I bought my parents series 1 on DVD (they don't have newfangled Netflix), they are really enjoying it.

Twilight sleep for births I think sometimes had psychological issues too, as women woke up and were presented with a baby and didn't remember the labour. Betty Draper goes through it in Mad Men.

As an insider, Yes is pronounced ears and one's House is Haice i.e. one lives in a naice haice^

HTH.

Have you all done compare and contrasts on the original of the first televised queen’s speech from the Lord Altrincham episode?
m.youtube.com/watch?v=mBRP-o6Q85s

Aghhhhhhh Netflix broke just as I started last episode.

Has anyone else noticed they arw sitting up straighter since watching?
I love the deportment and am definitely trying to sit like Clare foy

I've just finished watching series 2.

Foy and Smith were just brilliant. I'm a bit disappointed Olivia Colman will be taking over. She's a great actress but she just seems too familiar. I think someone less well-known (like Claire Foy) would have been better.

Loved it all so much, would happily watch the whole thing again.

And Helena Bonham Carter is lazy casting if you ask me. Her queen mother accent in The Kings Speech was atrocious.

While watching the Altrincham episode, did anyone else find themselves wondering how Malcolm Tucker would have handled the Queen’s PR?

Is the HBC casting confirmed? The reports I read last week said she'd been "approached" for the role, but didn't actually say if she'd accepted it.