The Crown - series 2 on Netflix

[southeastdweller]

Starts next Friday - anyone else excited?

Trailer here:

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/the-crown-season-2-netflix-trailer-claire-foy-jfk-jackie-kennedy-release-date-a8040486.html

Is it two years until the next series

I think I'll watch it again over the next week or so.

I reckon so OP. It's just finished in 1964 with Edward's birth so I think they could skip straight to Anne's wedding in the next series.

I think the 70s was more eventful for the Queen, with the aforementioned incidents. Plus they could probably wring a bit out of the deaths of the Duke of Windsor and William of Gloucester.

Claire Foy is 33 and played 21-38 I think. Olivia Coleman is a youn44 so I'm not sure how she could

I've just watched episode 6. Christ Almightly! I had no idea of any of that! What a lucky escape we had from having him as King! Just goes to show how precarious it is having a hereditary monarchy. We were a couple of twists of fate away from having someone who did that as Head of State. I'm glad they showed those pictures at the end. I was doubting that it was true. Brilliant TV! I was thinking at the beginning it was going to be a boring filler episode but bloody hell!

When people talk about the Duke of Windsor I do like to trot out the Noel Coward quote about Wallis Simpson:

“a statue should be erected to Mrs. Simpson in every town in England for the blessing she had bestowed upon the country.”

I love this series. I find the royal family fascinating, (I'm Irish BTW so I'm an on looker)
My favourite parts have been the episodes about David and Wallace Simpson. (singing happy birthday to the dog, LOL) The actors are brilliant and their life just seems so mad. He just always seemed to feel completely justified in his decision to abdicate and never seemed to understand why everyone was so upset with him.
The world could be a much different place if he had never met Wallace Simpson. They obviously loved each other enormously.

By all accounts he was obsessed with her. She wasn't that bothered and he was one of a few lovers. When he abdicated she felt she was stuck with him. Agree the actors are fab. He looks like Prince Charles! That little boy playing Charles is the image of him too!

Having done a bit of reading about Wallis in recent years, it looks like she would've been happy staying in the background married to Ernest. It was the royal family's opposition to her that made David so determined to marry her. And once he'd abdicated she probably felt she had to say yes.

He was so besotted with her she might've even convinced him to marry someone else early on, although the stock of marriageable foreign princesses was depleted by the war. Most of them were German so he could hardly marry into that!

I've been to the Villa Windsor in Paris where David and Wallis lived. It's nowhere near as big as the one used, but the interior is very good . She had pug cushions everywhere.

" It was the royal family's opposition to her that made David so determined to marry her. "

I think he was just determined to marry her & also saw no reason why she shouldn't be Queen.

Not much changes really, does it?

The very embodiment of entitlement.

He apparently threatened to slit his throat if she refused to marry him.

It maybe felt very unfulfilling to live lives without much purpose for all those years (they were married for 35 years until he died in 1972) and with no children.

Wallis was in her 40s when they married and apparently infertile from either a botched abortion or miscarriage during her first marriage. Apparently she took lovers but David never did. It seems he had mother/nanny issues and wasn't particularly interested in sex.

It’s a strange thought that (had the Monarchy survived Edward VIII) we would still have had Elizabeth II, just not until the 1970s.

I think she would've preferred that tbh. She was so young, just 25, when she became queen. I'm sure she'd have been happier to have a few more years of freedom and more time to devote to her children.

Yy I think she would have preferred that too. She was surprisingly understanding of her uncle considering his selfishness cost her a family life without the scrutiny of being Queen.

Yes, she could have had time with her family. Who knows, there might not have been Andrew and Edward.

There might still have been the same panic to have Charles married and with an heir, so that episode of history might still have happened.

I'm not a royalist but these two seasons of the crown have helped me understand-more. Margaret doesn't come over well - fix anyone else think that?

fix = did 😳

However, she was clearly a good mother - her children seem very well-balanced, there's never been a hint of scandal about them, and they speak of her with genuine affection.

Similarly for Tony, it seems. Apparently he was a very involved father and very supportive of his children's artistic interests.

I wonder how much of this is true?

Just seen ep3-the writer doesn't seem to like Philip!

"I'm outranked by my 8yr old son"-what a petulant arse, if accurate!

Margaret doesn't come over well - fix anyone else think that?

Perhaps it's thanks to Vanessa Kirby's excellent performance, but I ended up feeling sorry for Margaret. All that luxury and privilege, yet she appears to have been very unhappy for most of her life.

Had she been born 50 years earlier, she could've married a foreign King and been kept busy being a queen herself, had she been born 50 years later she could've got a better education and done something that exercised her intellect.

Just spent ten minutes looking at photo's Lord Snowdon took - he was so talented. Interesting that he took many photo's of the Royals (including Margaret) for many years after he and Margaret were divorced. I guess everyone forgave him for all those indiscretions that happened when he was married to the Princess.

I don't know-it's hard to think that as the Queen's sister she couldn't have found something to do!

Finished it last night .
I don't want anyone else to play Liz and Phil.

it's so good

I should watch it every night, I'm a bit of an accent magnet, so at the moment most of my conversations are a little less cockney....

(I swear a lot after watching the sopranos)