THE MISSING IS BACK - PART 3

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SQUEAL, CANT WAIT FOR TONIGHTS EPISODE :)

thought better start a new thread as part 2 is almost full

thread 1 here and thread 2 here

so much to question, but the death the sexy policeman by driller killer had us all last week, assume has to be dead 'clutches straws'

If the Brig fathered Alice's baby (Lucy), what relation would it make her to Sam and Eve's baby? Just thinking that there may be a twist with that. Sam and the Brig each getting the others daughter pregnant?

I thought the turtle story was a way of telling her to keep her mouth shut. With added suggestion that two people were involved in giving her a taste of the world beyond the confines of the pond/basement.

And definitely a joint UK/German investigation at that point as both Brig and German senior copper were there for the photo ID parade.

Baptiste had to tell Drilla he knew. He was counting on the fact that D would panic and run away for a few days.

B has no real evidence against D, and, after his recent behaviour has no chance of persuading either the military or German police to check out Drilla on a whim. As far as they're all concerned Drilla is an law-abiding soldier with, I assume, a clean record. Why would they believe B over D?

The only way B is going to be able to make anyone take notice is to find evidence again D himself. That means going to the house and having a nosy. But he can only do that if D is out the picture. Hence, telling D he knows.

Personally, and controversially, I know, I honestly think the best thing would be for Alice to die in the (surely) inevitable shoot-out at the cabin. She's going to be so psychologically damaged, having been locked away for so long (even if only a year, that's still far too long). And it's not as if she has a stable family to go back to. Her parents are on the brink of divorce (and them staying together for Alice's sake is surely just going to make things between them worse) and her brother has his own problems. I just can't see it working out for any of them.

Ah Time that makes sense.

Baptiste drives me mad. I'm glad we can blame his tumour for his impulsive and bullheaded behaviour or I'd want to slap him.

Anyway......

I had a thought.....

Drilla forgot his cash! So he would have had to pay in the toy shop with a card!!! That's how they find him!

That's right!

OMG, what a great episode. I was SO scared when they were searching the house.

elspeth that's a great theory about the credit card, you are very clever!

Do we know for sure yet how Henry Reed died?

And Alice / Sophie is no way in love with him. Everything she has done is is motivated by fear and a need to protect other abductee and little girl.

"Do we know for sure yet how Henry Reed died?" No, nor whether there is significance in the timing and if so what it is.

I was wondering if the German police will turn up whilst Julien and Gemma are at Driller's, because they've found the body of the lovely Jorn (probably less lovely after a few days) and preliminary police investigations into his last known movements have turned up something saying he was going to see Driller.

Then full resources of police in all relevant countries can be swiftly secured in the hunt for Driller, with Julien dashing along too once location is known.

God I felt for Gemma in that house - if that was my child I'd be torn between being too terrified to know and too terrified not to find out

Chronological timeline here.

Seeing Alice was a real shock. And Lucy knowing, "Will she be all right?" I hope there isn't a shootout, or that one of the girls dies. Or that it's poor Baptiste on his own limping up the hill with his sore bald head.

Am surprised by Baptiste not checking on Jorn. He could have let himself in. Hardly likely that he'd just disappear when he was so involved

Coming to this discussion extremely late I must say I am finding it very hard to fathom everything....but I do have a theory: what if the girl who escaped in Iraq, the young girl driller killer was f+++ing (whose house they torched) was found and brought up by Stone? I think Eve is that girl.

Looking at that timeline, I wonder if Reed's death had something to do with Lena. He was killed 4 days before Sophie reappeared.

No idea what though, unless Gettrick had to consult him about Sophie then plan the Alice in the shed scheme to have Alice confirmed dead so Sophie could return to him. He could have just killed Lena.

Am off sick today so might re-watch some of them. Probably get more confused.

I think Eves sister is the 13 year old from Iraq.

How would that work though? No one believed the boy and Stone could hardly have gone looking for her let alone smuggle her out with the army.

Theme may be of lost children, Eve being a mother without a child. Then Stone's comment about "all those babies" and she finally gets pregnant and it blows the Websters away even more.

Interestingly, Aldi's maiden name is "Evatt" which is related to Eve, meaning, possibly, either 'serpent' or, maybe, 'life'. Interesting that there's a connection between the two women.

We've been assuming that Brig was Very Bad, but what if his badness was really what we saw in Iraq -so shooting and burning and killing -but NOT in Germany? But maybe Drilla blackmailed him too, and ensured he'd comply with keeping the heat off FakeAlice , and ensuring that she would identify the butcher?

Eve cant be Iraqi -she's too too fair skinned. But maybe the sister? And her inability to bear children can be explained by her being repeatedly raped at a young age? Maybe the many babies are babies that she'd lost?

Stone's comment about "all those babies"

Could it be that Gettrick was abusing a young Eve and maybe got her pregnant, but Brig didn't know who the father was?

the body of the lovely Jorn (probably less lovely after a few days)

Some random speculation about Lena.

Gettrick knew the family, and may have had access to her throughout her childhood. He may have been abusing her in situ IYSWIM, but the circumstances became too difficult. So he turned to new victims, via abduction (don't serial criminals escalate).

Still it's the family, he still sees Lena from time to time and at around 16 she confronts him about past abuse and, panicked that she'll report him, he abducts her too.

Sophie-as-Alice describes the death of a weak girl - could that be Lena in a mix of hunger strike and food-withholding punishment? Had there been another incident, of which we know nothing, after the roller-coaster outing with that leading to harsher confinement?

Who set the Iraqi house on fire? (Can't remember). Because whichever one of them it was makes them responsible for the 9 year old's death.

Last night's episode was amazing and I agree there is a lot to tie up in next week's. I was impressed with how much the young Stone looked like the older one!

Young Stone seemed very panicked and almost flappy at that house in Iraq (I know something terrible had just happened but it didn't seem very 'Army Captain behaviour'). Perhaps he was just worried about protecting his own arse. Maybe him and drilla both had a thing for young girls and he felt extra loyalty? He seemed totally unbothered that Drilla Killa was caught shagging a 13 year old? Especially as Reid (who seems like a nice guy) mentioned it was a similar age to Eve?

I think psycho Sophie hates drilla and is doing what she is and playing along to protect Lucy. I am hoping Sophie and Alice are in it together and plotting to run away with Lucy from drilla.

Reed was shot in the head in a staged suicide? The prostitute had a flashback and it looked like a headshot. I think Brig and Driller are both in on the kidnapping of the girls. Reed knew, got fed up covering up for them, tried to help the girls and had to be killed.

Time - Stone and Reid started the fire

Why didn't Matthew say that 'Alice'/Sophie asked him to go to Hertz to apologise to him? It would be a huge thing to visit your sister's murderer in a prison to relay that message! Perhaps he will reveal next week, though that would be a weakness in the story line.

I wonder if Nadia Hertz was relaying a story line given to her by Stone. Obviously Reed, as a medic, was helping the despicable Gatterick.

It all seems very implausible. Especially with the missing of Jorn. I'm also surprised that Gatterick held onto his testicles following his torture.