THE MISSING IS BACK - PART 3

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SQUEAL, CANT WAIT FOR TONIGHTS EPISODE :)

thought better start a new thread as part 2 is almost full

thread 1 here and thread 2 here

so much to question, but the death the sexy policeman by driller killer had us all last week, assume has to be dead 'clutches straws'

I have a theory about how Sophie got to Switzerland. Maybe Lena was still alive (in the other room of Drilla's house?). She was older than the other two girls and possibly could drive (in the resprayed VW van?). Maybe Sophie then killed her once they reached the cabin - on Drilla's instructions (she was of no further use to him) That'd explain Sophie burning her glasses (and maybe her body - 'leg in fire theory') to get rid of any evidence that she was ever there.

Overthinking? Never

Yes Randomishusername that could be right.

I thought the body was put in the boot of the car, but Driller put something in the wheelie bin, don't know what though it's all too confusing

GrumbleBumble - Lena was almost exactly the same age as Alice - born April 1992 (Alice's birthday was 13 May 1992).

We know from Lena's missing person profile that her disappearance in 2008 was within a day or so of her 16th birthday. Not sure whether that will be significant.

As to Jorn - I thought he was in a car boot rather than wheelie bin?

Interesting re the meaning of Saint John. I think of John the Baptist, who baptised Jesus. He was a successful evangelist and grew v popular and influential. He had condemned Herod's marriage, and at the wedding of an daughter of that marriage, Herod offered her whatever she wanted. And she said 'Bring me the head of John the Baptist', and so he was beheaded. (Caution - Catholic school but but a big fat atheist so I may be wrong).

So, Baptist = Baptiste ? John=Jorn ? One dead, one has head issues. Well, both do really, Scandelous marriage = Drilla and FakeAlice 'relationship'? Hmmmm.

Laughing a lot at Jorn having 'head issues' 😆

"SO we all agree that lucy is not Sophie's dd but Alice's ?"

No, I do think Lucy will be Sophie's. If she was Alice's I don't think DK would have been able to control Sophie in the same way, the bond wouldn't be there... it had to be something she valued more than her freedom, her life itself and I think that would only come from your own child.

And Sophie's dad MUST be relevant as he appeared in Baptiste's hallucination.

Loving the fact we are now talking about Saints from years ago having an influence over the story - there's nothing like going really deep into it!

Sophie (pretending to be Alice) told the Websters that Sophie (who really was Alice back at Gattrick's house) had not been fed and the inference is that she died/was sick, something horrid happened.

Then the shed fire, (real) Alice.

There were 2 doors, one locked, one not. So where is Lena? If Alice is dead then Lena would still be there but it appears only Sophie and Lucy were.

Lena appears to be an afterthought to the whole thing. Or maybe not?

I thought John the Baptist is Julien and that his head will (metaphorically) be brought to the (metaphorical) king on a (metaphorical) platter on the command of the wicked daughter.

In which case who are the king/daughter?

Also, I thought the two doors were two interconnected rooms, Lucy's and Sophie's. When he entered he went first into the darkened nursery room and then through into her room with the window... Could that be so?

Final thought- I think there are some clues in the title sequence when lots of objects flash quickly by including yellow poles and toys and a comic book... has anyone else spotted them?

Anyone know how I can watch Series 1. Is it on Netflix or iplayer? I can't find it and want to binge watch it, to help me cope with waiting for the next episode.

Lots and lots of great theories here.

I am wondering if one of the girls was held in a different room though. In the scene when drilla comes home and looks at the covered window he looks up,its clearly on the second floor.
The little girl Lucy says that the photo she drew was of 'me and mummy in the basement' we haven't had any basement scenes have we?
Maybe Alice is/was kept in the basement.

King = Brig.
Misguided Daughter of scandalous relationship = Eve (and I am horrified at my misspell of scandalous, upthread )

Or:
Drilla = powerful 'king'
Daughter = Lucy

This is excellent discussion- so much of it though so apologies if I've missed the two points I'm about to make.

Wasn't it Gattrick who presented the DNA results to Gemma - so he could've simply forged the results without having to interfere w the actual test, so the body could be Lena (hence Sophie burning the glasses) and Alice could be alive...

Also at the end of an early episode Sophie said to Sam when they were sitting on the garden bench 'how can you live with yourself after what you've done' so he must be involved somehow (other than being an angry, bereaved adulterer...).

Thoughts?

I thought it was Eve who confirmed the DNA result?

Gatttrick is a press officer so not something he would be involved in. I bet he leaked stories though.

And didn't Sophie say those words to Stone, not Sam

Eve gave the DNA results to Gemma,

But in Episode one when they had the initial investigation meeting between German and Army police after Sophie's return in 2014, Drilla was there but there was no press release, it was hush hush and no 'press release reason' for him to be there.

So either he has a bigger role than just press officer, or he's assigned to the case or something. But it suggests he has a bigger access than his title initially suggests.

In the current day - Lucy has a pink room (with the picture she drew of possibly a buried body).
In 2015 with her mum / sophie - they have a blue room.

Are these the 2 rooms in drillakillers house?

I just had a random thought... don't know if someone has said this before...
Eve, what is in her name? Eve is the first woman in the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Islam and Christianism).
Was Eve Stone the first woman/girl in the plot?

Was Eve Stone the first woman/girl in the plot?
Oooh yes, good thinking.

I thought that MOD peeps were posted to different places/bases every 2 years or so. Are we to believe that Sam, and Brig and Drilla have stayed in the same posting since 2011?

sorry, I mean 2003

Just coming on to say I don't think Lucy is Alice's child. We know Sophie had had a child - medical evidence - and I agree that it is her bond with her child that is what is keeping her going.
I'm more and more wondering if the DNA was somehow faked and if the body in the shed is is fact Lena. But then I keep thinking of the little boy in Missing 1 who turned out to be dead and I wonder if it will be the same in this series for Alice.
I'm really curious about the actual abductions. Sophie is taken in France - Julien must know about this but we haven't been given much info. Why her? Why not just taken someone local - like Alice, Alice was abducted shortly afterwards in Eckhausen. What the girls both have in common is their age and the fact that they both speak English. That makes me think Drilla must have known Sophie spoke English otherwise it would have been much more difficult for him when he got her back to Germany. Lena disappears seven years later - she is 16 - so more or less same age as abducted girls, but considerably older than they were when they were taken. I'm trying to see a pattern. Drilla knew Lena. Not sure if she would have spoken English, much more likely to have been a German speaker. ALice might well have spoken German, but not Sophie. So Drilla had one girl locked up why did he want another - just because he could? Then why wait seven years to take another one - why then? How old is Lucy? When would she have been born in relation to when Lena disappeared?
When "Alice" returned and described Sophie getting weaker and weaker because she wasn't being fed was she describing something which was really happening to one of the other girls? The plan was to make it look like Alice was dead in the shed fire and that Sophie had wasted away in a basement somewhere. Was that so both girls could get away? Maybe that does point to it being Lena in the shed fire with the DNA being fiddled. No one was even looking for Lena at that point.

Yes, some families stay in Germany for multiple back-to-back postings.

Also we only know for sure that the Websters have been there all the time since before Alice's disappearance to the present day, the others may or may not have been continuously there. But not unusual either way.

(And married quarters in Germany have basements, but real issue furniture is not normally anywhere near as nice as the furnishing for the set!)