Westworld

[OhMrsQ]

Has anyone seen the first episode?

Bloody hell.

Amazing.

I can't wait for next week

Surely if there's a back door switch, there's also a "kill" switch. Especially if you built it? The gun was just symbolic - I think Ford basically said a code that would shut him down permanently.

I was wondering why Ford had dolores' schematics in the secret room behind the house. I understood why he had Bernards but why have dolores unless he's made a copy.

I'm also wondering if Arnold programmed dolores to kill him for some reason.

They've already said Delores is the oldest host in the park so it would make sense that Ford had hand drawn schematics of her. It's also been heavily implied that he had no idea how to make hosts from scratch, it was Arnold who knew what he was doing.

But surely that would mean that Arnold had already planned a robot of himself as the plans looked old and basic. They wouldn't need those in the present with all the modern tech.

That doesn't sound too far fetched, Arnold designing a version of himself, especially after the death of his son.

i wonder if Arnold wanted the hosts to evolve and reach consciousness, as we see with his convos with Dolores. The longer they live and die, it's a path to them switching over to thinking for themselves, taking control.

The maze is an out for them once they have reached the point of higher consciousness. Once they realise there is more going on and they are part of a game - they start to notice and question everything - the maze is to guide them - if they have evolved rough to work I out.

The blonde girl killed Teddy because he hasn't reached full consciousness yet and perhaps dying speeds it up (grasping there). I wonder if the blonde girl and the hooded monsters are hosts who have reached consciousness and are taking control and sort of rebelling.

I think "Wyatt" is a cover story created for what Dolores did in the past. Dolores is "Wyatt". When Teddy saw the soldiers he was killing turn into townsfolk - he was remembering the true massacre which was being hidden in the Wyatt massacring soldier storyline. Or he is just remembering all the different similar but different outcome storylines he has lived over the years.

I on der if the MIB is trying to help the hosts reach consciousness. Do we know for sure that has has actually harmed Dolores?

Or - I'm just talking pants because it's just too confusing and I haven't a clue.

The memories of Bernards son were fake though?

Interesting Bambini. I was wondering about the MIB's interest in the maze; he can come and go as he pleases, so what's his interest in it? If he's trying to help the hosts gain consciousness that might explain his killing of them - but why the torture and pleasure in the act of causing death?

Isn't Teddy Wyatt?

Is it chronological?

I need to watch them all again.

I don't know if those memories were false, Ford did say Arnold had suffered a tragedy in the past but they could well be.
I do like the idea that Arnold designed his own host as well as Bambini's theory.

Arnold suffered a tragedy. Not necessarily a lost child. I think maybe he lost his wife, who just maybe looks like Dolores. She was the first one he built.

Yes, Teddy actually being Wyatt would work well. Bossed and hunting Wyatt - and it's himself all this time.

Oooo... Arnold had that sketchbook Ford was looking at in his office... Same style as the "blueprints". Great catch!

I'm really really looking forward to he final episode. I wish the series was longer. It's really engaged me.

Was it on here someone mentioned that the director likes to make it look as though things are coming together in the penultimate episode then blow it apart. Maybe we should be thinking who isnt wyatt! It looks as though Deloris or Teddy is Wyatt. william massacred everyone at the camp so he could be wyatt. Arnold went mad and deloris killed him so is he Wyatt and Deloris killed him to stop the massacre? One person who isn't in the frame to be Wyatt is Ashley (if he is a robot) and he has been sent into the game now...could he be wyatt

In the new Wyatt story Teddy is a confederate but in the memory of the event he is a sheriff. This must be a clue. I think all the clues are there but it is hard to pull them together as prob lots of red herrings!!

My theory is MIB= William and his vested interest in the maze is so he can help Dolores gain sentience so she can finally be real and they can be together. I think the maze is a journey (into consciousness) rather than a place, and that it is triggered by a host experiencing a 'trauma' - MIB noticed Maeve seemed more human after the death of her daughter and I think that's what he's trying to do with Dolores - traumatise her to make her live. I think that's why he dragged her off in an earlier episode.

My theory is MIB= William and his vested interest in the maze is so he can help Dolores gain sentience so she can finally be real and they can be together

Yes but why would he have dragged her into the barn by her hair at the start of the series? He didn't look like he was trying to do her a favour and if Dolores can remember that (which she obviously can by the look on her face at the end of the last episode), if I were her, I'd be telling him to do one, sharpish.

Besides which, if MIB is a member of the Delos board, he'll know the hosts can't leave the park. Maeve or one of the technicians said there's some kind of built in bomb or something. I don't think any of the hosts will be leaving, they're just making it look like it might happen.

We'll see though. This has been such a fantastic series, I'm happy to be proved wrong on everything, although I reckon someone on here will have guessed it (don't know who yet though ).

Serjorah's theory re. MIB/Dolores could make sense; he did say in the first episode he didn't want to make it too easy. However, I would hate to think of there being any sort of 'justification' presented as a good reason for treating a woman so badly. Even worse would be Dolores running into his arms having reached a sentient state. Please no.

They did say MIB could do what he wanted so board member sounds about right. I think he dragged Dolores in the barn but then he made plans. I'm getting confused with the time lines and need to watch them all.

Whatever MIB did to Dolores in the barn worked, because she started remembering the next day and didn't stay in her loop.

I think it was the 'these violent delights...' line that set Dolores off remembering stuff as she had a flashback in town first (I think?). Then she said it to Maeve who also started remembering.

I thought the reprogramming that Elsie discovered started the remembering? Maybe Dolores had something to do with that? Didn't her original dad have the William's photograph buried by the post.

"My theory is MIB= William and his vested interest in the maze is so he can help Dolores gain sentience so she can finally be real and they can be together. I think the maze is a journey (into consciousness) rather than a place, and that it is triggered by a host experiencing a 'trauma' - MIB noticed Maeve seemed more human after the death of her daughter and I think that's what he's trying to do with Dolores - traumatise her to make her live. I think that's why he dragged her off in an earlier episode."

Yip, this pretty much fits with what I feel.

Don't know if it's been mentioned - I think Charlotte is is MIB's daughter. Anyone? And yes to each death and trauma seeming to trigger consciousness.