GAME OF THRONES - S7E8 - SPOILERS AND FAN THEORY DISCUSSION WARNING 2AM SHOWING ONWARDS

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THIS THREAD IS FOR THE EPISODE NO-ONE

FIRST UK SHOWING 2AM 13/6/16

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AND WHAT DO WE SAY TO THOSE WHO ASK IF SANSA IS MARRIED TO TYRION OR RAMSEY?

WE SAY THERE ARE LEGITIMACY ISSUES WITH BOTH MARRIAGES OK? HAPPY? CANCEL THE CHEQUE!

AND WHAT DO WE SAY TO THOSE WHO COME TO THIS THREAD THEN COMPLAIN THERE ARE SPOILERS???

WE SAY NOT TODAY!!!!

Queen - no coincidence is it with Dany and Varys. There is history there and also theories that he is a Targ or even The Harpy leader, though the latter wouldnt make sense as he wants Dany in Westeros. Hope Dario isnt a traitor!

Just realised I dont want Ramsey to die. I like watching him (nothing to do with his looks you understand) because he is such a pantomime villain but his story has reached an empass.

Mmm there's just nothing left for them to do with him. Killing his dad was obviously a brilliant twist, but after that, what else can he do but die? Presumably horribly, after an exciting battle story. He's not smart enough to be the last one standing, because he's always going to put being a sadist over being clever. So he might as well be killed off sooner rather than later. He's no more evil than someone like Cersei, probably, but she has a lot of complexity whereas he doesn't really have any. Well, there was an opportunity to explore his relationship with his dad a bit more and make him more 3D, but obviously that's not happened.

Excited about this episode, even Ramsey's inevitable death scene

Having said that, I'm sure The actor who plays Ramsay who's name I can't spell said that we would see another side to Ramsay this series. We haven't so far so maybe there's still a twist to come for him?

I think there's going to be a 'surprise' death too.

Maybe Jon Snow. That'd fuck the fan theories up.

Maybe Sansa will want Ramsay taken alive, and she will torture him. She is very cold these days, and she does seem to be part LSH. Or maybe she will have Stockholm syndrome and let him escape. I can't see it being a straightforward battle death.

Meant impasse

Ramsay does bring a twist of sadistic humour to the show. Least have The Hound's one liners and tge Varys/Tyrion show.

Oh he's certainly easy on the eye. Most of them are, in fairness. The Westerosi people must've been a very attractive bunch. Miserable oppression and death everywhere, but at least there'd be plenty of eye candy.

Clash was the other side where he was sad about Myranda (was that her name?). I can't see how we could ever change our mind about him now.

Possibly the other side we're going to see is his "in" side. Crosses fingers.

I thought the Myranda thing was almost touching, in a way! Ramsay fed her corpse to the dogs, it's probably what she would've wanted when you think about it.

Kittens I like it!
Boner yes - but you can't say it redeemed him exactly!

Yes, I suppose it could have been, it was rather sweet.

I was hoping we would see a teeny weeny little bit of redemption to justify my undying lust

After all, if Jaime can go from an incesteous, murderous snotty bastard who unremorsefully slings eight year old boys out of windows.....nah, not gonna happen is it?

Not a whole lot of meat on Myranda though.

I worried that she wasn't getting enough to eat.

Ramsay I. The books is physically repulsive. I can't help thinking that if they had cast closer to the book description we wouldn't be looking for redemption!

If Bran can change the past then why can't he just go back to when he's about to climb the tower, not climb it, but get chucked out of window and then say to siblings and mother, 'really bad idea that we leave Winterfell like'.

Final scene everyone happy eating hog roast.

The End.

Not get chucked out of window not but!

Rowan if that's the last episode I'm going to want my money back!

If it ends like they it will be the uproar like Lost all over again

Bran cannot really change the past. Hodor was already Hodor. It was like a closed time loop. It's a kind of paradox that has a name in physics. In LOST they had it as well and it was explained as "Whatever Happened, Happened"

Ah yes, here it is...

Time travel in ASOIAF follows Novikov's Self-Consistency Principle, which posits that there is only one timeline, and people who go in the past to change the past have already changed the past and that it was destined to happen all along.

I still have recovered from the last series of LOST not only was the finale dire the entire series preceding it is too, apart from the Jacob episode.

Bran can't change the past, ha can only enable it to happen.

Which suggests that they live in a world where everything is predetermined, There is fate. You can't change fate, you can act as if you have free will but the things that you choose WILL result in your destiny happening.

Sucks to be them.

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StableTimeLoop

Douglas Adams would say

“Anything that happens, happens.
Anything that, in happening, causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen.
Anything that, in happening, causes itself to happen again, happens again.
It doesn’t necessarily do it in chronological order, though.”

I'm still rooting for the final scene being a checkout girl daydreaming whilst scanning items at a supermarket till.....

That's the age old problem with TV ladystark, they can never resist making people too beautiful. I've not read the books but am told Tyrion is supposed to be pretty grotesque. Peter Dinklage of course is anything but. I realise being a dwarf he's not exactly typical Hollywood, but his features are rather conventionally beautiful. Strong jawline, mane of hair and exquisitely soulful eyes. He's perfectly cast of course, I'd never want anyone else to play him, but he's undeniably prettier than he's written.

Tyrion is not grotesque from the start. His nose basically gets ripped off during the Battle Of Blackwater so he is after that they minimised that whole injury for the show. I think (somebody will correct me if I'm wrong) he's supposed to be handsome and certainly a hit with the ladies before that.

I've not read the books so I'll defer to anyone who has. I thought this was an interesting discussion though.

www.quora.com/Is-Peter-Dinklage-too-pretty-to-be-cast-as-Tyrion-Lannister

He is brilliant, anyway.