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Anyone watching , so far quite tense especially the music

Re. Emily being wooden - agree, but when Mark's son brought her breakfast in bed she pretended to be pleased but ran off to the bathroom to be sick (covering the noise by running the taps). So it seems she is being portrayed as someone under tight control, hiding deep emotions. I've seen other actresses do this really well, though, and don't think this one is. She just looks as if she doesn't have any emotions.

I think despite the meeting with Ian's wife in the care home, Vincent could still be Ian's son - the conversation he had with Mrs Ian didn't rule it out (and she could be a stepmother anyway). Agree Ian could well have been threatening Vincent's mum even if that woman was his wife/ex-wife.

care home/yacht really well done. This series has more twists than a very twisty thing indeed. Love Baptiste - wonder if the actor is a heartthrob in France?

Due to Mrs Garrett's mental state she has no idea what is going on around her, who people are etc. VB talked to her like a stranger, but maybe deliberately as she didn't recognise him anyway. Or maybe it's a big fat red herring!

I wonder if any of the writers, producers etc look on forums to see what people are making of it and what theories people have or haven't got!

When Vincent speaks to Mary Garrett in the care home he says, "Many years ago your husband threatened the only person in the world who ever cared for me. He told me he would take my mother's life if I spoke."

That sort of sounds like Vincent is talking about two separate people. One person (Molly?) is threatened in some way by Ian. Vincent knows but Ian silences him by saying that he will kill Vincent's mother (Mary?) if Vincent says anything.

Vincent and Monique are the right age to be brother and sister. They are both French (Vincent's father was French) but speak good English (Vincent's mother was English).

I think that Vincent spoke to her as if she was a stranger because firstly Mary did not recognise him and secondly he has been angry about her closing her eyes to Ian's abuse and so no longer feels any love for her. Having met her in the care home he now thinks that she was a victim in a way as well.

Maybe the whole scarf thing was planted by someone? It was all a bit convenient. Photo on facebook, scarf in charity shop, leads to house, drawing on the wall etc.
The footage from the party seems as though it could have been contrived, maybe?

The drawing could easily have been copied from the one left in the car at the garage.
Don't know who would have been doing all this though...
Could be man in van, also what was down the drain!

I wonder if the writers look at the forums and go, "Ooh, it would have been good if we'd thought of that theory!"

I think that Emily has shut down her emotions. She said something to Tony about not being able to live with the pain of losing Ollie and having to move on from it. I don't think it works very well because we don't see as much of Emily as we do Tony.

Regarding the conversation funambulist posted (way up thread) I didn't take it from that that Molly had been murdered but that Ian had raped her.

There's not been a confirmation that she's dead, more an assumption.

I just can't buy the child swap thing with the boys, I think they are just the same age and Emily has simply used James as a substitute for Ollie.

It's possibly the giving away of his things is going to haunt her though - unless (forgotten name of James's dad) actually kept them

I agree that Emily the character has shut down hew emotions and is controlling herself.

It's just the actress can quite get it right.

Yes the boys being swapped doesn't make sense to me either.
As far as we know, James was with his dad on holiday when Ollie disappeared & he has been with his dad ever since.

So how/where/when was the swap?

I don't think they've been swapped but the theory that Olleh was mistakenly taken when James was the target is interesting. Mark definitely has some kind of secret.

It was me who thought Molly was Vincent, sorry!
I think garretts wife is his mum or maybe grandma as him showing her the photo of Molly was significant.
When we saw garretts painting of Molly there was a long close up of her eyes, it felt that we maybe have met this character. But can't think of blue eyed woman, maybe sylvie from the hotel?
Will this Carl who they are chasing be a red herring as it's not that interesting if it turns out to be someone we haven't met.

Marthsharbour - not sure if this has been answered yet, but the policeman who let Ian out of the cell could not have been the guy in the cleaning van. The guy in the cleaning van is the big-shot villain who they have been looking for and in the Paris knife at the throat scene we leaned that he had changed his name and was in Belgium.

I think the police would notice if big-shot villain was working in the police station! :-)

Re Monique - there may not be anything significant about her - she may just be a love interest for Tony, someone else for him to talk to and reveal his thoughts/feelings to.

I loved the 'twist' - but I didn't see the bit on the boat on the sea as a Ian's wife's dream, more her reality, what she, in her damages state, believes is true. It's like she's living in a permanent fantasy world.

There was a scene in the last episode where Emily was looking for the fox in the hotel room and couldn't find it. She said she wanted to give it to him if he came back though I've been thinking if she really was going to give it to him when she went on one of her "walks". Ollie wasn't wearing the scarf when he went missing and I think she might have given it to him afterwards. When she was moving out of her house to move in with Mark and James, Mark asked her what she wanted to do with the box containing the fox and she told him to give it to the hospital- a very odd thing to do I think, she didn't want the fox going to James and Mark's house. Maybe that scene with her and Ollie at the pool was actually real and not a dream, I'm going to check if he was wearing the scarf in that scene.

I wonder if the theory that Greg is Olleh's real father is true, maybe Emily was planning for them all to run off together and it went wrong somehow. I am so rubbish at guessing what happens in these kind of programmes.

eau When Greg and Mark saw each other at the hospice they exchanged a look as if they definitely knew each other and not exactly in a good way either. Emily, Greg and Mark are a tangled web indeed.

Did anyone notice the officer who let Ian out of the cell had 'Police' on his cap when he was very obviously meant to be a French policeman!

So many people have said that Oli wasn't wearing the scarf and that it was in his bag, meaning that either a) there has been a continuity error, or b) that somehow someone got the scarf to Oli after he'd been abducted.

But maybe that is over thinking it. Say Oli had the scarf in his bag when he and Tony went into the bar, then Oli's hand slips out of Tony's in the heaving crowd... When Tony realises Oli had disappeared, he rushes around and finds Oli's bag, which he (later?) looks in and notices the scarf is missing, so he knows that Oli had the scarf with him, as it's not in the bag. Perhaps it's as simple as Oli grabbing the scarf from his bag, just before, or when, he was taken.

Not read the updates on the thread but in last nights episode the policeman waiting outside the cell when tony & Ian were talking, I thought he was the cleaning van man?

If not his twin brother!

Right, so if Vincent is Mary's son from a previous relationship, Molly is her daughter with Ian and born later.

Ian abuses Vincent as a small boy.

In due course, Vincent abuses Molly, Ian finds out and Vincent has either killed Molly and helps get rid of the evidence for Mary's sake, or Ian decides to get Molly out of the situation altogether to keep her safe and avoid implicating himself and Vincent.

Ian's taste is for small boys, right, so that fits - he wasn't directly responsible but indirectly, yes.

Mary loses her mind as both of her children have been destroyed by Ian.

So yes, Monique could be Molly. And her paintings - are her and Vincent?

I need to get on iPlayer once the DCs are asleep...

Monique is drawn to Tony because he reminds her of Ian.

Just marking my place :)

I think the cap with Police on it is right. The Police Nationale would have jurisdiction in larger French towns, the Gendarmerie in smaller towns and the countryside.
I looked at the town and thought "that isn't France" then saw that the town used for filming was in Belgium!

Olly was wearing the scarf in the scene by the pool