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roundandround51 · 28/10/2014 21:08

Anyone watching , so far quite tense especially the music

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OttiliaVonBCup · 19/11/2014 17:24

The didn't mention him because he's a dead end.
As it were.

americanpancake · 19/11/2014 17:25

Please don't let the lovely Baptiste have any involvement in the disappearance!

Ohmygrood · 19/11/2014 17:26

But Tony thinks that Ian knows something.

Ohmygrood · 19/11/2014 17:27

God no Baptiste - no way. Shock He's the only one that I don't suspect!

OttiliaVonBCup · 19/11/2014 17:28

Yes,
Tony in the past thinks Ian knows something.
Then something happens and Tony never mentions Ian again.

Abra1d · 19/11/2014 17:37

The 'guilt is a cancer' line is a very well-used expression, though. In real life I wouldn't assume a relationship between people just because they both came out with it.

funambulist · 19/11/2014 17:47

At first I thought that Ian arranged a false alibi for Vincent because they were both part of a pedophile ring and if Vincent was interviewed by the police he might spill the beans.

Now I wonder whether it is also, or alternatively because the man with white/grey hair who watched Tony and Ollie playing at the pool is the same person as the man with white/grey hair driving the cleaning van later videoed outside the house where Ollie was kept.

That is the man with white/grey hair was involved in Ollie's disappearance. He might have been seen by Vincent who as we know was in fact loitering by the pool and lake area at the time of Ollie's disappearance. I don't think at the moment that Vincent was involved in Ollie's disappearance, but if he was in the area then he might have seen the man and been able to identify him.

So Ian isn't protecting Vincent from being a suspect in the disappearance but trying to ensure that the police don't interview a crucial witness.

James Nesbitt's acting was superb as Ian told his guilt is a cancer anecdote. He looked like he was about to be sick as he realised but at the same time he looked like someone trying not to react so that Ian wouldn't realise that he'd twigged he knew Vincent.

The bit about the worst day of Tony and Emily's life being the best day of the journalist's life (because he got his big break) and the best day of Mark's life (because he met Emily) was quite chilling. Does Mark really see it as the best day of his life? Surely you can't really love someone and think that?

Thanks to the poster with the theory that grieving parents Ian and Ian's wife have taken Ollie. That is about the best case senario I think.

There are quite a few lost children now:

Ollie

Ian's daughter - if he's being truthful about her

Baptiste's daughter - who is lost in the sense that they have lost the daughter they knew to drug addiction.

The other thing about Ian is he doesn't actually say how old his daughter was when she disappeared. We are led to think that she is very young because the portrait is, but I wondered whether she was a teenager or older, as the way Ian talks about the police assuming that she'd run away is not the way they'd deal with the disappearance of a very young child. And if she'd disappeared as a young child then wouldn't Tony remember the case or recognise the photo?

HugeFurryKnittingBalls · 19/11/2014 17:51

I know it's a bit out there but is it possible that Vincent could be Ian's daughter? It hasn't (so far) been specifically stated that the jabs he's having are chemical castration and I think that in female to male transition the person has to have the jabs for the rest of their life.

AvonCallingBarksdale · 19/11/2014 17:52

Ah, found you Smile. Loving this - hadn't considered that Vincent could be Ian's son, not sure about that. Definitely think Ian is connected to a paedophile ring. Something very creepy about his "Hello, Sweetheart" ,last week. James NEsbitt is brilliant in this, I think.

ginnycreeper5 · 19/11/2014 17:58

James Nesbitt's acting was superb as Ian told his guilt is a cancer anecdote. He looked like he was about to be sick as he realised but at the same time he looked like someone trying not to react so that Ian wouldn't realise that he'd twigged he knew Vincent.

James Nesbitt is a very good actor.

I find the wife in it a bit brittle and wooden in her ways.

ginnycreeper5 · 19/11/2014 18:01

I know it's a bit out there but is it possible that Vincent could be Ian's daughter?

Of course!

Vincent used to be a girl who's transitioning to male, and that's why Ian paints all those pictures. He's grieving for the daughter he's lost forever!
(we all automatically assumed the injections were chemical castration, but may they are hormones to turn him female)

Or have I got it the wrong way around? Confused

noddyholder · 19/11/2014 18:09

I wondered if Baptiste was leading Tony on a bit of a wild goose chase

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Ohmygrood · 19/11/2014 18:22

The actor who plays the British police man gets loads of work. He's been in lots of stuff - he was in Benjamin Button I think.
Not that it adds anything to the plot - I'm just pondering!

Nancy66 · 19/11/2014 18:22

I think Tony killed Ian

OttiliaVonBCup · 19/11/2014 18:29

I think he did kill him.

But didn't find Ollie, obvs and is now beginning to think it wasn't Ian after all.

ProfYaffle · 19/11/2014 18:42

ginny yy re the wife being wooden. I kind of get that in the present day she's somewhat glassy because she's shut off that part of herself but the scene where she was sobbing by the pool was not convincing at all.

ClapAlongIfYouLike · 19/11/2014 18:45

Perhap the little girl in the portraits is Ian's stepdaughter, and Vincent is her brother? Ian could have got into a relationship with the mum too get close to the girl :( Vincent has said several times that he never did anything but watch.
I did think it was dumb not too read the contract before signing it. The look on Ian's face was pretty scary when tony signed it!

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ClapAlongIfYouLike · 19/11/2014 18:50

Perhaps however, ian is paying the money as atonement for abusing his (step)daughter, just like Vincent is taking the injections to atone for his urges. That would mean that ian did not kidnap Ollie.

NeitherHereOrThere · 19/11/2014 20:19

Araminta - yes and a flat battery takes hours to sort out so an unscheduled stay in the area/hotel would have been unnecessary.

NeitherHereOrThere · 19/11/2014 20:19

*a couple of hours at most

CrapBag · 19/11/2014 20:24

I definitely think Ian is dodgy. The look on his face when Tony signed that paperwork.

I don't think Vincent was a girl. Don't forget he is a known paedophilepaedophile who has been to prison. However he does seem to be being portrayed as someone we should feel sorry for. I did wonder if Ian paid for him to get out of France to protect himself/Vincent from Tony's suspicions which he knows Tony is just not letting go of.

I had forgotten that the journalist said to Emily that he knew what they did. I can't see them killing Ian though. And what about that man that Tony beat up? Did he have an affair with Emily? It certainly seemed so even though she denied anything had happened.

I agree that James Nesbitt's acting is fantastic however Emily is very wooden, unless she is meant to be like that. I still can't believe she got rid of Ollie's fox though.

There must be a lot more about her relationship with Mark given his comment about swooping in on the victim and him not getting his promotion. Its not great for his career really is it.

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