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Our Girl

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R4roger · 06/10/2014 08:49

Anyone watching this drivel?
although slightly enjoyed the family dynamics going on last night, unfortunately DD's favourite programme and in fact Guardian seems to recommend it Hmm

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PassTheCremeEggs · 23/10/2014 14:55

Yes I remember that programme - Homefront wasn't it? That was pretty badly done all round, at his age he should have been the CO and yes, the CO looked more like a Brigadier's age. And don't even get me started on the too high quality of the married quarters! Wallpaper? Really?! Where was all the magnolia?Grin

I still stand by my theory that an unexpected baby led to an earlier than planned marriage in Our Girl.

Jusi · 23/10/2014 15:58

DH was away last night so I took full advantage and watched all 5 episodes back-to-back. Eventually got to bed at 1am. I'm out of control. I suppose it's too late for a Christmas special?? It could be centred around Molly spending Christmas with CJ at his parents' in Bath (remember, Christmas is magical at the James' house). He might even dress up as Santa....

How about a CJ calendar ladies??

cherin · 23/10/2014 15:59

Ladies, you are overthinking. Author just needed a bit of scrambling up of the character's perfection :-) and therefore suddenly loaded him with wife and kiddo.
If smurf knew about it, rest of the team must have known, how come it only popped up at the end of the tour?

PassTheCremeEggs · 23/10/2014 16:02

Yes you're probably right cherin!

PassTheCremeEggs · 23/10/2014 16:04

Also I have a hope that the fanfic author klipdoctor's theory about he date changes was all to allow for a Christmas special should the show be very popular. Here's hoping!

Bellini12 · 23/10/2014 16:07

I'm finding all this insight into real army life fascinating although I get a bit confused with all the different ranks (is CO commanding officer?) I'm not sure what some of the other anachronism's are either.

In my mind Molly was about 22/23 and the Capt was 31/2. I do cringe a bit when they are walking towards the white sheet and she says 'do you love me?' It seemed to almost come from nowhere at such an inappropriate time. They hadn't even kissed (though there was definite chemistry). I wasn't sure if this was her being immature or just impulsive Molly?

Smurfingreat · 23/10/2014 16:19

I am currently feeling very proud of myself and wanted to share my success with you ladies no, I haven't managed to teleport myself to an alternate world where Cpt James is real.

Having decided that a folder on my laptop was not a convenient place to be keeping James and Molly fanfic, I thought I'd see what I could do about this. 4 hours later, I can now send fanfiction to my kindle! This may not be the height of technological advancement to some, but I'm pretty proud of managing to find Calibri, install the app, add the appropriate plug in and then send it off to my kindle.

Now I can take Capt James into the bath with me. Grin

Jusi · 23/10/2014 16:26

Very good work Smurfingreat. I'm tempted to try and upload a CJ pic to my phone and then apply it to hubbie's phone number so every time he rings, it looks like CJ is calling me. A tadge too far??

annabanana19 · 23/10/2014 16:43

Oh a CJ calendar! Might do one myself with pics of half naked squaddies and stick CJ face on them!

annabanana19 · 23/10/2014 16:44

Jusi-love that! Im gonna do the sameGrin

PassTheCremeEggs · 23/10/2014 16:45

Bellini -

Ranks of officers from junior to senior are:

2nd lieutenant, lieutenant, captain, major, lieutenant colonel, colonel, brigadier, major general, lieutenant general, general.

Soldier ranks:

private, lance corporal, corporal, sergeant, staff sergeant/colour sergeant, warrant officer class 2, warrant officer class 1.

CO = commanding officer. Rank of Lt Col and in charge of a whole regiment, battalion or battle group which on operations can be over 1000 people.

OC = Officer commanding a sub-unit of the above e.g. OC B Company. A company or squadron of men is usually somewhere between 100-200. A company/squadron is made up of several platoons or troops and is commanded by a Major. He has a 2IC (second in command) who is a Captain.

OC can also refer to a platoon/troop commander e.g. OC 3 platoon or OC mortar platoon but "the OC" as a title tends to refer to the Major in charge of the company or squadron.

A platoon or troop is usually about 30 men, commanded by a Lieutenant or sometimes a Captain. Platoons/troops are made up of usually 3 smaller sections of men (e.g. 2 Section in our girl). Each section is commanded by a corporal who is a junior NCO (non-commissioned officer).

I have no idea if this will make sense to anyone. (Or indeed if anyone cares but someone might!)

Marry into the army and you spend a whole lifetime deciphering irritating acronyms. And using the 24 hour clock in actual speech. Oh the shame... Hmm

klj78 · 23/10/2014 17:34

I'm an army divorce statistic (though my husband wasn't an officer) and somebody showed me a photo a few years ago of a wives BBQ, of the 12 or so of us sitting around the table, only 2 are still married. I too thought it odd that a captain would have married so young, but I suppose it is a work of fiction and it fitted the story the writer wanted to tell. Deployment is extremely hard on family life, but I do like to think of CJ's ex wife as a cold fish lol! I got married in 1998, and at that time new wives were given a book called "The Wives Guide to the Army" which explained acronyms and things and about welfare etc. I don't know if they still do that, I think at one point they changed it to "The Families Guide". I found it extremely useful though as I'd had no previous experience of the Army and our first posting was straight in the deep end in Northern Ireland. I would love a Christmas special/second series, though in a way I think it would only feed my unhealthy obsession!

Bellini12 · 23/10/2014 17:36

Wow thanks Cremeeggs! That actually makes it really clear to me. I would get confused between officer and soldier ranks, it's never been explained to me. So was Kinders a lieutenant to Capt James or was he a soldier (lance corporal?).

I'm going away for a few days over half term and I'm hoping I will be distracted from my obsession and it will die-down! It has never happened to me before... A film might make me thoughtful the next day ('Atonement' did that to me) but nothing like this. Arrrrgh! Grin

PassTheCremeEggs · 23/10/2014 17:41

Kinders is a corporal - I think he's probably the 2 section commander, and James is the platoon commander. Major Beck will be the company OC for the company that Capt James's platoon is part of. No CO visible!

I can't quite decide whether I want to get over this obsession or not! I'm rather enjoying it as a diversion to real life...

Paperbackwriter1 · 23/10/2014 18:12

Thanks for all the Army information and insight. Really helpful and fascinating.

Paperbackwriter1 · 23/10/2014 18:13

PS does this destroy the mystique/help with the obsession or not? It's only as CJ he does it for me at the moment!

ihearttc · 23/10/2014 18:23

Nope that does nothing for me at all!! He looks lovely in most of the other photo's etc Ive seen of him but not great on that!

I think its only really as CJ for me as well.

jcscot · 23/10/2014 18:25

It is possible to have whole conversations in TLA (three letter acronyms) and there is a whole lexicon of military slang that goes over people's heads. You know you've been hanging around the military too long when you start telling people to turn next instead of left...

We've been married just under fifteen years (we got married eight months after my husband passed out from RMAS and we were both 26) we've had four op tours , eleven postings/attachments, six quarters and three children (with another inbound in Feb 15). I have seen him go to from a one-pip wonder (2nd Lt) all the way to Lt Col. After eight years in our own home with him commuting (initially weekly and latterly fortnightly) we're moving next summer. He's going to be CO of a battalion and it's such an all-consuming job that regular commuting will be out of the question, so I'm biting the bullet and moving back on the patch with the kids in tow.

He's only 40, so we have another 15 yrs (20 if he makes it to Brig) of this to go!

BrodiesBabe · 23/10/2014 19:21

Thanks for the detailed explanation, jscot and CremeEggs. I always struggle to get my head round all the ranks and differences between platoons/companies etc so that really helps. Smile

I know there were many inconsistencies and inaccuracies, and perhaps next time (yes, there MUST and WILL be a second series!) they'll try harder to get thing more correct, but at the end of the day they're making a drama and simply have to tell a good story. So many people have really enjoyed it for a lot of different reasons, but one in particular ...

Our Girl
jcscot · 23/10/2014 19:32

"...turn next instead of left..." ??

"...turn jeft instead of left..."

Military slang confuses auto-correct!

Paperbackwriter1 · 23/10/2014 19:50

Ihearttc. I think he may be one of those actors who gets much better as he ages. I do remember him in lark Rise but he had no impact on me. I'm afraid he's only a year older than my dd, although according to latest research (see today's Times) it's pure biology to fancy younger men (and research of course.)

Reading abou posts from women with partners in the Forces, I'm on awe of you, and will never moan when dh has to make occasional business trip again. Respect to you, your families and partners, male or female.

Paperbackwriter1 · 23/10/2014 19:51

Does anyone think that the series ought to be left as it is, on that perfect moment when anything is possible? (ducks)

lyndie · 23/10/2014 20:05

Possibly Paperback. They could have stretched this series out a lot further though.

PassTheCremeEggs · 23/10/2014 20:05

NO NO NO paperbackwriter!!

What if the BBC saw this and thought that's what we wanted?! No!!

furcoatbigknickers · 23/10/2014 20:14

You know what paperback that has crossed my mind, right now it all to our imaginations... A second series might be a real
Let down. On the other handGrin

Ben is defintley well sexy at his best hot, dirty in uniform but hey ladies if you don't want him I'll take one for the team. i think he might be gay though