Doctor Who Series 6 part 2 - the ganger thread

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Old thread's getting full, so here's a nice new acid-resistant one...

There's no reason why it had to be the day before he died in Earth time, it could just be the day before he died in his own personal timeline.

so were there april dates on the notes river read/papers? sod it i'm going to have to rewatch without the dc's comments making me miss important stuff helping

Or maybe it was the other way around - Earth time he's dying tomorrow, but personal time he's got years left. (makes less sense that way though)

trillian yy that's what i thought - but will need to check any visible dates in the last ep!

sorry that post was in response to your previouos post iykwim

wow keyboard playing up tonight - previous

ohhhhh prequel with spooky rhyme now up at bbc website

I did wonder why on earth Amy and Rory were in Colchester. I mean of all the places to choose to go

The prequal says "Before the Doctor returns to Lake Silencio, we return to Area 52"

When did we see area 52?

This pic seems to be Area 52 - found on a blog: I can't explain it - can anyone else?

tardis.wiki says Area 51 is Wright Patterson Air Base (or Wright Field - nn Dreamland) - but again I've no idea of the significance.

ohhhhh - well done for spotting the april date on the newspaper! our telly is comparatively tiny so i've had to iplayer on the laptop for a proper look and it is indeed the day before the doctor's death in earth time!!!!

so what were rory and amy doing there when as we all said they should have been en route to the US?

this just does not add up!

But they couldn't have been en route to the US because they hadn't had the letter yet - the Doctor took the blue envelopes from Craig's kitchen after he saw them....

yy - he would have had to have gone back in time to post them. and then that reality would not have happened - rory and amy would not have been in that store.

gah

So there'll actually be three Rivers on the beach then? The one in the space suit, the one who was invited and an embryonic one?

And what's happened to the one in the computer, is she still floating around somewhere?

I think my theory was sort of right (episodes not in chronological order, doc dropped them off in the house from the first episode of s6, sort of proved right when the doctor grabbed the blue envelopes from craigs house :))

Wasn't it the people in the tesselator thing that said the Doctor's death was a fixed point, not the doctor? (The image on the TARDIS screen wasa copy of the one on their computer) If so, they could have been wrong....

And the Doctor has meddled with fixed points before - in Waters of Mars, two people survived after his intervention who didn't before, and the circumstances of Adelaide's death were different.

I think its also worth remembering that the doctor that gets killed and therefore the doctor that has just left Craigs with the blue envelopes was about 200 years older than the other doctor that they have been travelling with for the rest of the series.

It's all starting to make my head hurt a little.

Ok, the Doctor is now 200 years older, and knows he's going to die tomorrow.

He sends letters to Amy and Rory, River, his younger self and the man whose name I've forgotten.

River knows there is a possibility he will die. My question is, will Amy and Rory know what will happen this time around as they've seen it before? (basically as if this is ever basic are there two sets of Amy and Rory?)

If he really is 200 years older, wouldn't he be likely ot have had a regeneration? THat bit has bothered me all along. I don't get it :(

Perhaps he gets into less danger when he's on his own, rather than trying to show his companions the wonders of the universe?

If William Hartnell was his first incarnation, he must have got through a few centuries in that body - he was around 750 iirc when he was Tom Baker.

Oh, this is so geeky, but I can't help myself

Rewatching the Vampires in Venice (last season) while ironing, momma vampire said something I hadn't twigged.

Talking about coming through the cracks from her homeworld Saturnine and them closing behind them and leaving them refugees on Earth, she says to The Doctor "We can build a new society here as others have." AS OTHERS HAVE. Now they were also fleeing The Silence, so I don't think that's who she was referring to by "others", because you wouldn't choose to set up on a world inhabited by who you are fleeing, would you?

I've had a thought about the eye patch...

Madam Kovarian seems to remember the silence, so could the patch stop you forgetting about them? Would explain why the baddies next week are wearing them if they're all in league.

And also why we know of both River and Amy wearing eyepatches. Are they just eyepatches though, I assume not because if it was just a one eye thing then other people would have seen the silence