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DD(17) pregnant again with the same useless dad

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StrugglingNannyNan · 22/06/2025 15:05

First time posting, long time lurker. Just need to let this all out because I feel like I’m losing it.

DD is 17 and had her little boy nearly 11 months ago. She’s back at college, doing well considering everything, and I’m really proud of her for sticking it out. But she’s just told me she’s pregnant again. And it’s by the same boy who’s 16 now and still completely useless.

Bit of backstory. They were together when she was 15. He’s a few months younger, December born, so he was the year below her in school. They were together for about 6 months. Then he left her, blocked her when she told him she was pregnant, and moved on with someone else. She didn’t tell me until she was around 5 months gone. He popped back up after the baby was born saying he wanted to be involved, and eventually they got back together properly.

He’s been in foster care most of his life and there’s always something going on. DD constantly defends him, saying he’s struggling mentally and that he’s a “good dad really,” but he’s not. He stopped smoking weed for a while after the baby was born, but he’s back on it now. I’ve got a strong feeling he might be dealing. He gives DD money and he’s not working or in college. Just sat his GCSEs and didn’t revise at all. Said it was pointless and barely turned up half the time.

He’s not capable of basic parenting. Can’t change a nappy properly even though DD’s shown him loads of times. He doesn’t know what the baby eats or when he naps. A couple of weeks ago the baby fell off the sofa while he was supposed to be watching him. He’d gone outside to vape. I completely lost my rag. I shouted at him, properly shouted, and he just stood there looking at the floor. Didn’t say a single word. Not even sorry.

The hardest bit is the baby absolutely adores him. Always smiling at him, lights up when he walks in, wants to be around him. And when he’s holding him, he looks like a proper dad. But the second he needs something, or starts crying, or needs changing, he passes him off. It’s me or DD who do the actual parenting.

His foster carers are trying their best but you can tell they’re at the end of their rope. They’ve said he lies, smokes too much, doesn’t clean up after himself, won’t listen. Social services are involved with both households. Ours have already raised concerns about him being around the baby unsupervised, especially now that the weed’s back. But DD plays it all down. I don’t think they even know how much he’s actually around.

Now this pregnancy. DD was supposed to be on the pill. She says she messed it up. She’s only a few weeks, but I just feel sick. She hasn’t told him yet. Says he’ll freak out and she can’t deal with it. And honestly, I don’t think he’ll step up. He didn’t the first time and I can’t see him suddenly changing now. I know I’ll be the one holding it all together again while he just floats through doing the bare minimum and being praised for it.

I love my daughter and my grandson more than anything. But I’m tired. I feel like I’m watching her tie herself to a life that’s going to make everything ten times harder. And I don’t know how to help without pushing her closer to him.

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Wowzel · 22/06/2025 15:07

And she definitely doesn't want a termination this time?

2 little kids is going to be very hard on all of you

ninjahamster · 22/06/2025 15:10

Would she consider a termination? It doesn’t sound like the best plan to bring another child into the mix.

MaryGreenhill · 22/06/2025 15:12

As hard as it is @StrugglingNannyNan, just keep being the safe person for your DD and Dgs. She’s still young and trying to figure it out, and while it’s frustrating to watch her defend someone who isn’t showing up, your continued presence might be what helps her . You can’t control her choices, but your support and boundaries can help guide her through this awful time ahead for her . Will she consider having a termination? I know it's not for everyone.
Bless you all .

Miley23 · 22/06/2025 15:14

God I'd be furious. Sorry I know that's not helpful and I hope you manage to support her through it op.

colonialwomanonthewing · 22/06/2025 15:15

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TheAutumnCrow · 22/06/2025 15:17

Please at least encourage her to make an appointment at a clinic to pursue her best option here. You can go together.

She might get on more reliably with a mirena or an implant in future.

I also think you need to stress that she’s nearly an adult and you can’t give her your future on a plate to keep rescuing her from her present poor decisions. That’s crazily unfair.

LadyKenya · 22/06/2025 15:18

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That really is a stretch to suggest such a thing. OP have you spoken to your Daughter to help her understand that she does have options? Or you really should be outlining to her that you can only help so much.

witwatwoo · 22/06/2025 15:20

Abortion and then implant is the sensible route

CopperWhite · 22/06/2025 15:20

I’d encourage her towards a termination in this situation OP, but if she can’t do that then she needs to accept that this is her responsibility and understand that you can support, but not do it for her. If she keeps this baby she’s got to do it on the understanding that she has conceived with a child even younger than her and therefore can’t expect to be supported properly the way a mother should be supported by her baby’s father. A messed up kid in foster care can’t be expected to be a good parent, especially if he was under the impression that his girlfriend was using contraception.

Fupoffyagrasshole · 22/06/2025 15:21

Ugh 😩 sorry op sounds awful

tbh id probably try step back a little bit now (even though it’s probably hard as you love grandson and want the best for him!) but maybe if she starts having less support it might help her realise just how hard it is - she probably thinks at least you are there and she won’t be alone parenting regardless what happens with the guy.

GoodVibesHere · 22/06/2025 15:21

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What a horrible thing to say.

ZImono · 22/06/2025 15:21

Whata nightmare...!

Very honestly....

I'd be encouraging her strongly to get an abortion and get her on implant or coil since she cant be trusted to take a tablet once a day.
Id also be clear if she proceeds I'll be taking a BIG step back... once is a mistake, twice is idiocy....

I'd also try and move / get her away from him...

AmelieSummer25 · 22/06/2025 15:22

CopperWhite · 22/06/2025 15:20

I’d encourage her towards a termination in this situation OP, but if she can’t do that then she needs to accept that this is her responsibility and understand that you can support, but not do it for her. If she keeps this baby she’s got to do it on the understanding that she has conceived with a child even younger than her and therefore can’t expect to be supported properly the way a mother should be supported by her baby’s father. A messed up kid in foster care can’t be expected to be a good parent, especially if he was under the impression that his girlfriend was using contraception.

What was stopping him using condoms??

workshy46 · 22/06/2025 15:22

I would be encouraging her to have a termination and if not I would be washing my hands of her. This is just massively massively irresponsible. Like what kind of life are any of you going to have. I would be letting her know 100% if she proceeds with this she will be on her own, no money, baby sitting etc. Or else you are looking at baby number five by the time she is 22, its just how these things seem to turn out.

AmelieSummer25 · 22/06/2025 15:24

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What a load of nonsense.

he's much more likely to just walk away (again).

colonialwomanonthewing · 22/06/2025 15:25

I don't think it's a horrible thing to say at all. How many have we seen the same story play out - young, troubled, drug using (and dealing) men with existing SS involvement are convicted of shaking or otherwise harming their own child? Thankfully OP's daughter sounds like a good mother, but he sounds less than a waste of space and I'd want him out of my life, and those of my children and grandchildren, asap. Leave him to his vape and his lies.

2chocolateoranges · 22/06/2025 15:26

AmelieSummer25 · 22/06/2025 15:22

What was stopping him using condoms??

What stopped her daughter insisting he uses condoms. She knows what happens when you have unprotected sex she has an 11 month old to prove it. He's also shown he wont step up.

I'd be more disappointed in my daughter that she hadn't learned her lesson the first time around. He is irrelevant.

AmelieSummer25 · 22/06/2025 15:28

workshy46 · 22/06/2025 15:22

I would be encouraging her to have a termination and if not I would be washing my hands of her. This is just massively massively irresponsible. Like what kind of life are any of you going to have. I would be letting her know 100% if she proceeds with this she will be on her own, no money, baby sitting etc. Or else you are looking at baby number five by the time she is 22, its just how these things seem to turn out.

I hope you don't have kids.

i would be furious, but there's no way I'd 'wash my hands of her' I can't think of much other than maybe murdering a family member that would mean I'd do that. Wash my hands if my own child? Just because she's pregnant?! No way.

AmelieSummer25 · 22/06/2025 15:30

2chocolateoranges · 22/06/2025 15:26

What stopped her daughter insisting he uses condoms. She knows what happens when you have unprotected sex she has an 11 month old to prove it. He's also shown he wont step up.

I'd be more disappointed in my daughter that she hadn't learned her lesson the first time around. He is irrelevant.

Nothing, but maybe read the post I was replying to??

you're making a completely different point.

LadyKenya · 22/06/2025 15:32

2chocolateoranges · 22/06/2025 15:26

What stopped her daughter insisting he uses condoms. She knows what happens when you have unprotected sex she has an 11 month old to prove it. He's also shown he wont step up.

I'd be more disappointed in my daughter that she hadn't learned her lesson the first time around. He is irrelevant.

This is a bit harsh, but raises a good point. The OP has outlined the young boy's problems, but her Daughter obviously is vulnerable, as well. She is the one having to do all the hard work, she does not understand the impact it will have on her.

NerrSnerr · 22/06/2025 15:35

AmelieSummer25 · 22/06/2025 15:22

What was stopping him using condoms??

Of course he should be using condoms but he doesn’t sound like the responsible type does he?

Purplecatshopaholic · 22/06/2025 15:36

Oh blimey, I’d be raging. Does she expect you to help with/support two kids? What was she thinking? I too think a termination is probably best for all - for her existing child’s sake, her own, and frankly yours too op. If she doesn’t, are you going to have them all living with you? I’m assuming she is assuming you will. Whether one child or two, she’s going to need to stand on her own two feet at some point, actions have consequences after all. Time for some seriously tough talking I think op.

Holluschickie · 22/06/2025 15:38

I would be strongly encouraging termination..But then I am from another culture and parent in a different way.
I am not keen on being my DDs friend at all.

verycloakanddaggers · 22/06/2025 15:39

What support has he had to deal with his presumably complicated childhood?

It might be worth looking into supporting him more, for the benefit of all of them.

Has he ever had therapy or any mentoring for example? He's had a fractured childhood, it's not easy repairing that damage without help and guidance.

Screamingabdabz · 22/06/2025 15:39

Is adoption an option? Why on earth is she getting pregnant? Ugh the irresponsibility is so maddening. Children do not deserve to be born into this.