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DD(17) pregnant again with the same useless dad

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StrugglingNannyNan · 22/06/2025 15:05

First time posting, long time lurker. Just need to let this all out because I feel like I’m losing it.

DD is 17 and had her little boy nearly 11 months ago. She’s back at college, doing well considering everything, and I’m really proud of her for sticking it out. But she’s just told me she’s pregnant again. And it’s by the same boy who’s 16 now and still completely useless.

Bit of backstory. They were together when she was 15. He’s a few months younger, December born, so he was the year below her in school. They were together for about 6 months. Then he left her, blocked her when she told him she was pregnant, and moved on with someone else. She didn’t tell me until she was around 5 months gone. He popped back up after the baby was born saying he wanted to be involved, and eventually they got back together properly.

He’s been in foster care most of his life and there’s always something going on. DD constantly defends him, saying he’s struggling mentally and that he’s a “good dad really,” but he’s not. He stopped smoking weed for a while after the baby was born, but he’s back on it now. I’ve got a strong feeling he might be dealing. He gives DD money and he’s not working or in college. Just sat his GCSEs and didn’t revise at all. Said it was pointless and barely turned up half the time.

He’s not capable of basic parenting. Can’t change a nappy properly even though DD’s shown him loads of times. He doesn’t know what the baby eats or when he naps. A couple of weeks ago the baby fell off the sofa while he was supposed to be watching him. He’d gone outside to vape. I completely lost my rag. I shouted at him, properly shouted, and he just stood there looking at the floor. Didn’t say a single word. Not even sorry.

The hardest bit is the baby absolutely adores him. Always smiling at him, lights up when he walks in, wants to be around him. And when he’s holding him, he looks like a proper dad. But the second he needs something, or starts crying, or needs changing, he passes him off. It’s me or DD who do the actual parenting.

His foster carers are trying their best but you can tell they’re at the end of their rope. They’ve said he lies, smokes too much, doesn’t clean up after himself, won’t listen. Social services are involved with both households. Ours have already raised concerns about him being around the baby unsupervised, especially now that the weed’s back. But DD plays it all down. I don’t think they even know how much he’s actually around.

Now this pregnancy. DD was supposed to be on the pill. She says she messed it up. She’s only a few weeks, but I just feel sick. She hasn’t told him yet. Says he’ll freak out and she can’t deal with it. And honestly, I don’t think he’ll step up. He didn’t the first time and I can’t see him suddenly changing now. I know I’ll be the one holding it all together again while he just floats through doing the bare minimum and being praised for it.

I love my daughter and my grandson more than anything. But I’m tired. I feel like I’m watching her tie herself to a life that’s going to make everything ten times harder. And I don’t know how to help without pushing her closer to him.

OP posts:
pikkumyy77 · 22/06/2025 15:40

AmelieSummer25 · 22/06/2025 15:22

What was stopping him using condoms??

Nothing but he is obviously incompetent and chaotic.

Mumof1andacat · 22/06/2025 15:40

I'd be stepping back and say if she wants to keep this baby she will need to move out and support herself

candycane222 · 22/06/2025 15:41

TheAutumnCrow · 22/06/2025 15:17

Please at least encourage her to make an appointment at a clinic to pursue her best option here. You can go together.

She might get on more reliably with a mirena or an implant in future.

I also think you need to stress that she’s nearly an adult and you can’t give her your future on a plate to keep rescuing her from her present poor decisions. That’s crazily unfair.

I agree with this. If she is responsible enough to be a Mum, she has to also take responsibility for the consequences- good and bad - for the choices she makes. And not just assume her Mum will sort it..

Starlight7080 · 22/06/2025 15:41

Really having a termination in this situation seems like the best plan. You daughter has shown she is far to young immature and irresponsible to have another child. And obviously being led on by this boy.
But he is very young and needs probably several years to hopefully get on a good path and sort himself out. Again not at all ready for responsibility.
She also needs sti test .
A good chat about condoms and something more permanent that she can't simple forget like she does with the pill.

wizzywig · 22/06/2025 15:41

Wowzel · 22/06/2025 15:07

And she definitely doesn't want a termination this time?

2 little kids is going to be very hard on all of you

They never do. She needs an contraceptive implant

Gyozas · 22/06/2025 15:41

I’d be doing my best to encourage a termination at this point.

Hollyandben · 22/06/2025 15:42

Report him to social services tbh

Holluschickie · 22/06/2025 15:42

I would take her for counselling at BPAS or similar. Insist on more reliable contraception. Chuck that useless dad.

Viviennemary · 22/06/2025 15:44

It is just so irresponsible of her. Not a thought you how this will impact your life and she is still with this not very supportive rather useless young partner. I wouldn't be prepared to take all this on. But you probably will continue to devote your life to this. It's sad

VickyEadieofThigh · 22/06/2025 15:45

Hollyandben · 22/06/2025 15:42

Report him to social services tbh

"Report" him for what? What do you imagine SS would do?

Venturini · 22/06/2025 15:46

Termination and implant. How irresponsible. The 11 month old must come first in this shit show.

Hollyandben · 22/06/2025 15:48

VickyEadieofThigh · 22/06/2025 15:45

"Report" him for what? What do you imagine SS would do?

She said he didn’t supervise the the baby and the baby fell off the couch (could have resulted in injury) he’s dealing weed (and smoking?) weed so presumably letting dangerous people around his baby etc

SixteenClovesOfGarlic · 22/06/2025 15:48

Hollyandben · 22/06/2025 15:42

Report him to social services tbh

From the OP: 'Social services are involved with both households'.

LadyKenya · 22/06/2025 15:49

Hollyandben · 22/06/2025 15:42

Report him to social services tbh

At least read the opening post properly. Goodness.

CremeEggThief · 22/06/2025 15:49

Sorry OP.

Please please try to talk her into a termination. I'd even play on the fact if this carries on, she could lose Baby No. 1 to SS! She needs to think of her existing child first now, despite how hard any other choices might be.

femfemlicious · 22/06/2025 15:54

Miley23 · 22/06/2025 15:14

God I'd be furious. Sorry I know that's not helpful and I hope you manage to support her through it op.

I would be extremely angry with her!. I would tell her she's on her own!. What kind of life does she want?. Softly softly approach isn't working!

lessglittermoremud · 22/06/2025 15:54

If she insists on keeping it I don’t think withdrawing help or trying to insist she does will do anything but drive her further away from you and more towards him.
As others have mentioned a termination and implant would be the most sensible idea, but common sense when the hearts involved isn’t always possible.
You must be pulling your hair out, and I’m guessing supporting financially this little family.
The more you tell her to bin him off the more determined she will be to keep him. Hopefully as her world expands through college etc she will encounter more people and then she will be able to draw her own conclusions.
I wouldn’t let him around unsupervised if he’s as useless as leaving his child unattended to go out and vape which resulted in an accident/injury.
I also wouldn’t help facilitate this relationship so no overnight stays etc
A girl I went college with had 2 children by the time she was 18, with family support she still achieved all that she had planned to do.
She used to say she would never swap her children but she did wish she had had them later, but now she’s in the position of being early 40’s with grown up children and her life is amazing.
sending you a mums net hug because this situation as no immediate winners x

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 22/06/2025 15:55

I wonder why she didnt suggest a termination herself. Its the obvious decision - the sooner the better for all. Then get contraception sorted.

ThejoyofNC · 22/06/2025 15:56

OP maybe it's time to start questioning whether you're being supportive or enabling. It's very easy for one to turn into the other without you ever noticing.

Zebedee999 · 22/06/2025 15:56

StrugglingNannyNan · 22/06/2025 15:05

First time posting, long time lurker. Just need to let this all out because I feel like I’m losing it.

DD is 17 and had her little boy nearly 11 months ago. She’s back at college, doing well considering everything, and I’m really proud of her for sticking it out. But she’s just told me she’s pregnant again. And it’s by the same boy who’s 16 now and still completely useless.

Bit of backstory. They were together when she was 15. He’s a few months younger, December born, so he was the year below her in school. They were together for about 6 months. Then he left her, blocked her when she told him she was pregnant, and moved on with someone else. She didn’t tell me until she was around 5 months gone. He popped back up after the baby was born saying he wanted to be involved, and eventually they got back together properly.

He’s been in foster care most of his life and there’s always something going on. DD constantly defends him, saying he’s struggling mentally and that he’s a “good dad really,” but he’s not. He stopped smoking weed for a while after the baby was born, but he’s back on it now. I’ve got a strong feeling he might be dealing. He gives DD money and he’s not working or in college. Just sat his GCSEs and didn’t revise at all. Said it was pointless and barely turned up half the time.

He’s not capable of basic parenting. Can’t change a nappy properly even though DD’s shown him loads of times. He doesn’t know what the baby eats or when he naps. A couple of weeks ago the baby fell off the sofa while he was supposed to be watching him. He’d gone outside to vape. I completely lost my rag. I shouted at him, properly shouted, and he just stood there looking at the floor. Didn’t say a single word. Not even sorry.

The hardest bit is the baby absolutely adores him. Always smiling at him, lights up when he walks in, wants to be around him. And when he’s holding him, he looks like a proper dad. But the second he needs something, or starts crying, or needs changing, he passes him off. It’s me or DD who do the actual parenting.

His foster carers are trying their best but you can tell they’re at the end of their rope. They’ve said he lies, smokes too much, doesn’t clean up after himself, won’t listen. Social services are involved with both households. Ours have already raised concerns about him being around the baby unsupervised, especially now that the weed’s back. But DD plays it all down. I don’t think they even know how much he’s actually around.

Now this pregnancy. DD was supposed to be on the pill. She says she messed it up. She’s only a few weeks, but I just feel sick. She hasn’t told him yet. Says he’ll freak out and she can’t deal with it. And honestly, I don’t think he’ll step up. He didn’t the first time and I can’t see him suddenly changing now. I know I’ll be the one holding it all together again while he just floats through doing the bare minimum and being praised for it.

I love my daughter and my grandson more than anything. But I’m tired. I feel like I’m watching her tie herself to a life that’s going to make everything ten times harder. And I don’t know how to help without pushing her closer to him.

What a nightmare for you. No dad who takes weed etc is ever a decent parent... she just cant see it yet, but she will in time.

Poor you, good luck.

orangewasp · 22/06/2025 15:56

I'd be strongly steering her towards a termination and implant and making it very clear that she can't keep relying on you to pick up the slack. I'd also advise not informing or involving the father - that has the potential to cause more drama - the fewer ties your dd has to him the better.

Elseaknows · 22/06/2025 15:57

I'd be encouraging her to get on some longer lasting contraception (once baby is born) and telling his foster parents that your DD is expecting baby number 2.
Only she can make the choice of what path she is going to be taking but I'd make it abundantly clear now that you can't keep stepping up to play parent number 2 when he's a useless little boy.
Ask her how they both plan on paying for their children? Ask him directly when is he getting a job? What happens when DD starts work? How long until she's qualified from college? Can she picture life with two small DC? How many kids is she going to have? All these questions I'd ask (not in an awful way but to seriously give her something to think about).

Deadringer · 22/06/2025 15:57

This must be all so hard for you op, I agree with pp, termination ASAP and then implant is the best way forward.

PracticallyIncompetentInEveryWay · 22/06/2025 15:58

CremeEggThief · 22/06/2025 15:49

Sorry OP.

Please please try to talk her into a termination. I'd even play on the fact if this carries on, she could lose Baby No. 1 to SS! She needs to think of her existing child first now, despite how hard any other choices might be.

I agree and losing a baby to Social Services would be tragic. I often see people on different threads saying 'oh just report them to SS'. Yes they may help and they do try and keep families together, but when a child is removed he or she is traumatised and some of the foster families and children's home they go to are rife with abuse. 9/10 the kids are then dumped when they age out of the system and have no further familial contact. The service doesn't want to admit that they made a placement mistake, so they are much more lenient on mistreatment in foster families or often they ignore it. People seem to think there are lovely families just waiting at the end of the rainbow for these kids. In my experience, when I worked there, this was not the case and often the social workers really didn't give a shit about the kids, who were moved around like chess pieces. Bloody awful.

saveforthat · 22/06/2025 15:59

I doubt if she will want a termination, I would be surprised if she didn't want to be pregnant. I find it very hard to believe that anyone who doesn't want a baby gets pregnant by accident nowadays.