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DD(17) pregnant again with the same useless dad

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StrugglingNannyNan · 22/06/2025 15:05

First time posting, long time lurker. Just need to let this all out because I feel like I’m losing it.

DD is 17 and had her little boy nearly 11 months ago. She’s back at college, doing well considering everything, and I’m really proud of her for sticking it out. But she’s just told me she’s pregnant again. And it’s by the same boy who’s 16 now and still completely useless.

Bit of backstory. They were together when she was 15. He’s a few months younger, December born, so he was the year below her in school. They were together for about 6 months. Then he left her, blocked her when she told him she was pregnant, and moved on with someone else. She didn’t tell me until she was around 5 months gone. He popped back up after the baby was born saying he wanted to be involved, and eventually they got back together properly.

He’s been in foster care most of his life and there’s always something going on. DD constantly defends him, saying he’s struggling mentally and that he’s a “good dad really,” but he’s not. He stopped smoking weed for a while after the baby was born, but he’s back on it now. I’ve got a strong feeling he might be dealing. He gives DD money and he’s not working or in college. Just sat his GCSEs and didn’t revise at all. Said it was pointless and barely turned up half the time.

He’s not capable of basic parenting. Can’t change a nappy properly even though DD’s shown him loads of times. He doesn’t know what the baby eats or when he naps. A couple of weeks ago the baby fell off the sofa while he was supposed to be watching him. He’d gone outside to vape. I completely lost my rag. I shouted at him, properly shouted, and he just stood there looking at the floor. Didn’t say a single word. Not even sorry.

The hardest bit is the baby absolutely adores him. Always smiling at him, lights up when he walks in, wants to be around him. And when he’s holding him, he looks like a proper dad. But the second he needs something, or starts crying, or needs changing, he passes him off. It’s me or DD who do the actual parenting.

His foster carers are trying their best but you can tell they’re at the end of their rope. They’ve said he lies, smokes too much, doesn’t clean up after himself, won’t listen. Social services are involved with both households. Ours have already raised concerns about him being around the baby unsupervised, especially now that the weed’s back. But DD plays it all down. I don’t think they even know how much he’s actually around.

Now this pregnancy. DD was supposed to be on the pill. She says she messed it up. She’s only a few weeks, but I just feel sick. She hasn’t told him yet. Says he’ll freak out and she can’t deal with it. And honestly, I don’t think he’ll step up. He didn’t the first time and I can’t see him suddenly changing now. I know I’ll be the one holding it all together again while he just floats through doing the bare minimum and being praised for it.

I love my daughter and my grandson more than anything. But I’m tired. I feel like I’m watching her tie herself to a life that’s going to make everything ten times harder. And I don’t know how to help without pushing her closer to him.

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DiscoBob · 22/06/2025 15:59

Presuming this child was an accident? Is she on the pill, or some form of contraception? Obviously you can't force her but you could guide and strongly advise.

This lad doesn't seem responsible enough to wipe his or his child's arse. So almost certainly can't be relied on to use a condom.

I would tell her to think long and hard about whether she wants another child so soon.

The boyfriend does sound like he's from a troubled background which isn't his fault.

But that doesn't mean he's a decent father. I mean even someone from a very stable financially secure family would struggle to be a good dad when he's literally still a child himself.

ButteredRadish · 22/06/2025 16:00

2 kids by 17? Yikes. I’m so sorry OP, I’d be absolutely ashamed if DD had one at that age, let alone 2.
She clearly either doesn’t properly understand contraception or is doing this intentionally. I mean, contraception can fail but twice? Within two years? What are the chances…..

ButteredRadish · 22/06/2025 16:02

saveforthat · 22/06/2025 15:59

I doubt if she will want a termination, I would be surprised if she didn't want to be pregnant. I find it very hard to believe that anyone who doesn't want a baby gets pregnant by accident nowadays.

To be fair, contraception can and does fail. DD came about as a result of both my injection failing and a condom split, happening simultaneously! Very low odds I grant you but not so unlikely that it’s “hard to believe”, not at all!

FortyElephants · 22/06/2025 16:02

As she's still a child and under your roof/relying on you to help parent her existing child I would be telling her in no uncertain terms that she needs to be on the implant not the pill FFS and would strongly advise a termination.

Holluschickie · 22/06/2025 16:02

I do think there is a thin line between enabling and supporting. We all have to find it for ourselves.

Favouritefruits · 22/06/2025 16:02

Two children at 17 years old, gosh that’s going to be hard! I mean in hindsight the pill wasn’t the most ideal choice she needs something long term even as a middle-aged woman I would forget the pill!

does your DD and DGS live with you? Is there room for another baby? Could you DD cope with two? There’s so many questions that need answers

tinyspiny · 22/06/2025 16:04

I’d be advising a termination and if she wants to proceed with the pregnancy I think I’d also be saying that she would have to move out and sort her own childcare / finances out going forward as at least that might encourage her to make better decisions in the future.

Steelworks · 22/06/2025 16:04

I’d be disappointed as well. Who’s paying for all the baby stuff? No doubt you are. To be honest, I wouldn’t want the dad in the picture and definantly not at my house.

FortyElephants · 22/06/2025 16:04

CremeEggThief · 22/06/2025 15:49

Sorry OP.

Please please try to talk her into a termination. I'd even play on the fact if this carries on, she could lose Baby No. 1 to SS! She needs to think of her existing child first now, despite how hard any other choices might be.

Why would she lose her older child if she has a second one?!

CremeEggThief · 22/06/2025 16:04

She can still make a decent life for herself and a baby as a teenage parent with one child with the right support and motivation, but the chances with two children are very, very slim.

Imagine how heartbroken you would be if she lost Baby 1, because SS reckon she's not coping with looking after 2, and it will be so easy for them to do that with the dad's circumstances (I do feel for him as well btw).

OldEnoughToFancyBobGeldof · 22/06/2025 16:06

VickyEadieofThigh · 22/06/2025 15:45

"Report" him for what? What do you imagine SS would do?

I should imagine they’d let him no that you can’t leave an 11 month old baby alone to fall of a couch while you go of to suck on your vape. I’d probably report him to op, hopefully he’ll only get supervised visits. That’s not to say your daughter is completely innocent, she should want more for herself and her child, I’d suggest therapy and nudge towards a termination.

Motheroffive999 · 22/06/2025 16:06

How did you respond when she told you ? Did she give you any idea what she wants to do ?
I am so sorry that you are going through this as it is really going to effect you if she keeps the baby , one baby is tiring but two and your daughter is doing well with college etc.
Big hugs

MarySueSaidBoo · 22/06/2025 16:07

Oh gosh, what an absolute nightmare for you. I would tell her that she's got your wholehearted support with baby no 1 even though it's tiring, but another is out of the question. So if she wants to go ahead, she needs to reassess her living arrangements. I think like a PP said there is a fine line between supporting and enabling here, and I fear that you may well have crossed that line. She's gotten away with one poor life decision with no consequences, so has hurtled straight into another.

CopperWhite · 22/06/2025 16:07

AmelieSummer25 · 22/06/2025 15:22

What was stopping him using condoms??

Maybe the fact that he’s a messed up child who was failed by his parents and mistakenly believed that he didn’t need to?

x2boys · 22/06/2025 16:07

ButteredRadish · 22/06/2025 16:00

2 kids by 17? Yikes. I’m so sorry OP, I’d be absolutely ashamed if DD had one at that age, let alone 2.
She clearly either doesn’t properly understand contraception or is doing this intentionally. I mean, contraception can fail but twice? Within two years? What are the chances…..

And this is a helpful answer how ?

PullTheBricksDown · 22/06/2025 16:08

TheAutumnCrow · 22/06/2025 15:17

Please at least encourage her to make an appointment at a clinic to pursue her best option here. You can go together.

She might get on more reliably with a mirena or an implant in future.

I also think you need to stress that she’s nearly an adult and you can’t give her your future on a plate to keep rescuing her from her present poor decisions. That’s crazily unfair.

This. Start to set up the idea that there's a limit to your help, which is perfectly reasonable. Also, point out that a new baby will really limit your daughter's own life choices and also the time and effort she can give to her existing baby boy.

WitchOfSomorrostro · 22/06/2025 16:09

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justkeepswimingswiming · 22/06/2025 16:09

Id tell her to have an abortion and go with her, i dont say this lightly either. But you know its the right choice.

ButteredRadish · 22/06/2025 16:09

x2boys · 22/06/2025 16:07

And this is a helpful answer how ?

OP has posted to ask for opinions and I’ve given mine? Do you not understand how Mumsnet works?

PennyAnnLane · 22/06/2025 16:09

Well for a start I’d make sure he was never with the child alone, he’s too young and immature to look after him and he hasn’t had the normal supportive family structures to know how to look after him, it’s not his fault, he’s just a child himself. Your daughter needs the type of contraception she doesn’t need to remember to take every day.

dogmandu · 22/06/2025 16:10

What stopped her daughter insisting he uses condoms. She knows what happens when you have unprotected sex she has an 11 month old to prove it. He's also shown he wont step up.
I'd be more disappointed in my daughter that she hadn't learned her lesson the first time around. He is irrelevant.
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so true. At the end of the day, it's always the woman that has the final say on allowing unprotected sex (rape aside)

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ThatsNotMyTeen · 22/06/2025 16:10

He doesn’t sound great but at least there’s a potential explanation given his own shit upbringing. What’s your daughter’s excuse for initially getting pregnant by a 15 year old?

x2boys · 22/06/2025 16:10

Some of these answers are appalling, yes it's absolutely not ideal that a,17 year old is pregnant with baby number 2 and whilst a termination would be the most sensible course of action she can't be forced
But abandoning her like some posters are suggesting helps no one.

FortyElephants · 22/06/2025 16:10

OldEnoughToFancyBobGeldof · 22/06/2025 16:06

I should imagine they’d let him no that you can’t leave an 11 month old baby alone to fall of a couch while you go of to suck on your vape. I’d probably report him to op, hopefully he’ll only get supervised visits. That’s not to say your daughter is completely innocent, she should want more for herself and her child, I’d suggest therapy and nudge towards a termination.

Who's job do you think it is to impose supervised contact for a father - it's not social services, it's the mother/carer for the baby.

ButteredRadish · 22/06/2025 16:11

x2boys · 22/06/2025 16:10

Some of these answers are appalling, yes it's absolutely not ideal that a,17 year old is pregnant with baby number 2 and whilst a termination would be the most sensible course of action she can't be forced
But abandoning her like some posters are suggesting helps no one.

I don’t think anyone has suggested OP “abandon” her DD Hmm