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DD slept with a 25 year old man

282 replies

isbypalm · 25/08/2024 16:37

I don't know how to feel or react, DD is 16, she is 17 next week, going into Y13. She's smart she got all 8/9s in her GCSEs, she doesn't cause any problems at home, her room in always clean, she doesn't talk back, I never have issues with her.
Last week she went to London to stay with her cousin who is at uni down there (19), they went to Taylor Swift and Noah Kahan together, did some museums like the V&A and just had a nice time. She got home yesterday.
I knew instantly something was wrong, she was quiet, went straight to her room. This morning my older daughter who is 18, just left school came to me and told me that while in London she had used a fake ID (no idea when or how she got this) to go out partying and went home with a 25 year old. Apparently DD2 confided in her as they didn't use protection and she was worried. She said he thought she was 19 and it was consensual but she regrets it. She has been seeing a boy up here who is the same age for about 8 months so not only did she sleep with a 25 year old, she cheated!
DD is tall but I don't think she looks over 18 at all!!!

I haven't spoken to her yet as she went out to her friends for the afternoon but I know she will be home soon and I have no idea what to say.
I don't know which night this was so not sure if the morning after pill will be effective (if it will be I will get it) otherwise I will definitely be getting her an STD test.
I'm so shocked and horrified, how do I handle this?

OP posts:
Josette77 · 25/08/2024 19:29

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:25

Quite possibly.

But there is a ? at the end of your post.

Do you think the OP should talk to her daughter?

If the daughter wanted to talk to OP she would.

OP is upset she cheated on her boyfriend and she was her " good kid ".

Her DD isn't comfortable taking to her mom about this. She shouldn't be forced to.

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:29

Newposter180 · 25/08/2024 19:26

You’ve never even seen this girl?! You only have to spend 5 minutes on TikTok to see how into makeup a lot of teen girls are, and how they can drastically change their appearance and look so much older. Not to mention they met in a dark club… An unprotected one night stand isn’t exactly ideal but the suggestions of grooming or accusing the guy of being a pedo are seriously far fetched.

Why is it about the guy

It’s about making sure a 16 year old girl is okay. That is the priority here.

WGACA · 25/08/2024 19:29

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:25

Quite possibly.

But there is a ? at the end of your post.

Do you think the OP should talk to her daughter?

I think the daughter should ideally be on the pill if she in a LTR. The OP should ask if everything is ok because it’ll be easier for the girl with her mum’s practical help to get MAP if that’s an option and STI tests. She might need advice as to how to proceed re the boyfriend. I could never in a million years talk to my mum about anything like this and it just makes everything harder trying to navigate it all on your own.

hihelenhi · 25/08/2024 19:29

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:26

But would your mother have posted on here about it? The OP is not your mother.

You are also not my mother, nor are you showing a great deal of of understanding of what it might be like to be a teenager who's worrying about something she's done the next day. Let her process it, she's already told her sister what she's worried about. Why are you trying to make out it MUST be something more than what she's already said?

notacooldad · 25/08/2024 19:29

I think I'm just shocked, she has always been my "good kid"
You keep repeating this. It's sounding rather odd.
I'm just glad my mother never found out about my mistakes. She would have been shocked a d horrified as well.

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:30

Josette77 · 25/08/2024 19:29

If the daughter wanted to talk to OP she would.

OP is upset she cheated on her boyfriend and she was her " good kid ".

Her DD isn't comfortable taking to her mom about this. She shouldn't be forced to.

Again you don’t have a 16 year old daughter do you?

Missamyp · 25/08/2024 19:31

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 25/08/2024 18:55

Exactly this.
I'm 60 but went out drinking in pubs and went to clubs from the age of 16 ie after O levels, I was a "nice" well educated girl, it was normal. We certainly got chatted up by older men who didn't ask how old we were and presumably assumed we were older because we were in those places. I didn't have one night stands at that age but I know when my daughter was the same age and going clubbing with fake ID she and her friends did, in fact years later she ended up marrying a man she'd met in a club when she was 17 and he was 26.
Nowadays, certainly on Mumsnet, no idea about real life, it seems no teenage girl should have anything to do with anyone more than a year or two older, but that's a very recent attitude.

The problem is, it might have been the thing to do however society certainly knows a one-night stand may come at a heavy cost-std-unwanted pregnancy-emotional trauma.
Surely it pays to be prudent when making decisions.

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:32

hihelenhi · 25/08/2024 19:29

You are also not my mother, nor are you showing a great deal of of understanding of what it might be like to be a teenager who's worrying about something she's done the next day. Let her process it, she's already told her sister what she's worried about. Why are you trying to make out it MUST be something more than what she's already said?

I’m just worried about the girls welfare,

Not sure what the rest of your post is about.

its truly disturbing how many on this thread are actually standing up and saying ‘the op shouldn’t talk to dd’.

Newposter180 · 25/08/2024 19:33

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:29

Why is it about the guy

It’s about making sure a 16 year old girl is okay. That is the priority here.

Think you’ve responded to the wrong person - it is not me that is remotely interested in “the guy”, but others who are desperate to insinuate grooming/rape.

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:35

And her sisters confidence is a totally moot point. The OP knew there was something wrong as soon as she saw her. So that’s where I’d start with mine.

hihelenhi · 25/08/2024 19:35

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:32

I’m just worried about the girls welfare,

Not sure what the rest of your post is about.

its truly disturbing how many on this thread are actually standing up and saying ‘the op shouldn’t talk to dd’.

Nobody is saying "she shouldn't talk to DD". Read my post again. I specifically say she should speak to DD.

There's nothing "hard to understand" about my post. I made myself perfectly clear. My point is there is no additional "red flag". You claim that the mother "noticing something is wrong" is one, but given the daughter has already told her sister she's worried, we already KNOW exactly what is wrong because she told her sister. It isn't a "red flag."

Why are you trying to whip up the OP into further panic?

ReadingWorm · 25/08/2024 19:35

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:29

Why is it about the guy

It’s about making sure a 16 year old girl is okay. That is the priority here.

A 16 year old girl who along with a 19 year old woman used deception, including creating fake documents, to coerce a man into sex.

hihelenhi · 25/08/2024 19:37

ReadingWorm · 25/08/2024 19:35

A 16 year old girl who along with a 19 year old woman used deception, including creating fake documents, to coerce a man into sex.

And this is the other side of the "ridiculous" coin. Get over yourself. I really don't think there's any need to blame a teenage girl for wanting to get into a club underage (many of us have done it) and she certainly didn't "coerce" some man into sex.

Don't be so fkin ridiculous.

Is it still full moon or something?

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:37

Newposter180 · 25/08/2024 19:33

Think you’ve responded to the wrong person - it is not me that is remotely interested in “the guy”, but others who are desperate to insinuate grooming/rape.

No I didn’t reply to the wrong person

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:38

hihelenhi · 25/08/2024 19:35

Nobody is saying "she shouldn't talk to DD". Read my post again. I specifically say she should speak to DD.

There's nothing "hard to understand" about my post. I made myself perfectly clear. My point is there is no additional "red flag". You claim that the mother "noticing something is wrong" is one, but given the daughter has already told her sister she's worried, we already KNOW exactly what is wrong because she told her sister. It isn't a "red flag."

Why are you trying to whip up the OP into further panic?

By telling her talk to her daughter?

Georgyporky · 25/08/2024 19:38

"DD is tall but I don't think she looks over 18 at all!!!"

So? She's 16. Old enough to consent to sex, whether her lover is 25 or 55.

Has she never been told about contraception or STIs ?

hihelenhi · 25/08/2024 19:39

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:35

And her sisters confidence is a totally moot point. The OP knew there was something wrong as soon as she saw her. So that’s where I’d start with mine.

It isn't, because she TOLD her sister exactly what she's worried about already! "DD, you are acting strange." "Yes, mum, I'm feeling worried about all the things I told my sister I was worried about."

I don't think you understand what "moot point" means. What is the additional "red flag" you imagine you can see here?

starrypineapple · 25/08/2024 19:39

LostittoBostik · 25/08/2024 16:45

Can you get your older DD to get her to the doctor? MAP only works up to 72 hours post sex - is that still within time?
She probably won't want to talk about it to you but if she has a good relationship with her sister that might be helpful.

not true - ella one is 120 hours. although sooner the better for either of them

hihelenhi · 25/08/2024 19:41

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:38

By telling her talk to her daughter?

No, by claiming there are terrible "red flags" that we don't already know about. Read my post again. You appear to have missed the part where I said she should ask her daughter if she's okay. that's "Talking to her daughter". I suggest you stop being disingenuous, it's getting a bit tiresome.

FatmanandKnobbin · 25/08/2024 19:41

I would be giving older dd the information and support her through this as younger dd has chosen to confide in her. I would supply condoms and pregnancy tests and guide older dd through what to ask for at the doctor etc.

I would also make sure I had conversations which would leave dd able to open up to me if she chose to, but I wouldn't utter a word to her or she may feel like she can't open up to older dd again.

She isn't a bad girl, she has made a stupid teenage mistake that millions of teen girls do. Just work on her being able to open up to you in future.

Mirabai · 25/08/2024 19:41

I would ask her sister to sort out MAP and STI tests asap.

I’m a bit concerned you don’t mention MAP OP?

Mirabai · 25/08/2024 19:42

FatmanandKnobbin · 25/08/2024 19:41

I would be giving older dd the information and support her through this as younger dd has chosen to confide in her. I would supply condoms and pregnancy tests and guide older dd through what to ask for at the doctor etc.

I would also make sure I had conversations which would leave dd able to open up to me if she chose to, but I wouldn't utter a word to her or she may feel like she can't open up to older dd again.

She isn't a bad girl, she has made a stupid teenage mistake that millions of teen girls do. Just work on her being able to open up to you in future.

I agree.

PrettyPinkShoes · 25/08/2024 19:42

I'm with @ISeriouslyDoubtIt on this.

I think the age gap is irrelevant to an extent.
When I was 17 I used to go to 'discos' (clubs) at that age and everyone who was 17 looked older.

My friend was 18 when she met a man who was 25. Things moved on pretty fast, she was married at 19 and had her first child with him at 22.
They're now in their 70s and still happily married.

It's not the age gap that matters here but the unprotected sex.

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:42

hihelenhi · 25/08/2024 19:39

It isn't, because she TOLD her sister exactly what she's worried about already! "DD, you are acting strange." "Yes, mum, I'm feeling worried about all the things I told my sister I was worried about."

I don't think you understand what "moot point" means. What is the additional "red flag" you imagine you can see here?

Why are you so sure all is well?

Why are you so adamant the OP shouldn’t talk to her daughter?

Very bizarre response.

hihelenhi · 25/08/2024 19:43

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 19:42

Why are you so sure all is well?

Why are you so adamant the OP shouldn’t talk to her daughter?

Very bizarre response.

I'm not, as I've pointed out repeatedly. So really not a "bizarre response" at all.

Learn to read what people have actually said. And do stop projecting, please.