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DD slept with a 25 year old man

282 replies

isbypalm · 25/08/2024 16:37

I don't know how to feel or react, DD is 16, she is 17 next week, going into Y13. She's smart she got all 8/9s in her GCSEs, she doesn't cause any problems at home, her room in always clean, she doesn't talk back, I never have issues with her.
Last week she went to London to stay with her cousin who is at uni down there (19), they went to Taylor Swift and Noah Kahan together, did some museums like the V&A and just had a nice time. She got home yesterday.
I knew instantly something was wrong, she was quiet, went straight to her room. This morning my older daughter who is 18, just left school came to me and told me that while in London she had used a fake ID (no idea when or how she got this) to go out partying and went home with a 25 year old. Apparently DD2 confided in her as they didn't use protection and she was worried. She said he thought she was 19 and it was consensual but she regrets it. She has been seeing a boy up here who is the same age for about 8 months so not only did she sleep with a 25 year old, she cheated!
DD is tall but I don't think she looks over 18 at all!!!

I haven't spoken to her yet as she went out to her friends for the afternoon but I know she will be home soon and I have no idea what to say.
I don't know which night this was so not sure if the morning after pill will be effective (if it will be I will get it) otherwise I will definitely be getting her an STD test.
I'm so shocked and horrified, how do I handle this?

OP posts:
DownThePubWithStevieNicks · 25/08/2024 18:09

Encourage your older daughter to give her the good advice about MAP (if still relevant) and sexual health clinic. And following up with her after period is due.

I’d also be asking older DD to be on the lookout for signs that it really is just regret. We’ve all been there and she’ll get over it! But if she is inexperienced and has gone home with a 25yo, it’s possible that while consensual - or what she considers consensual - she might have had experiences that were beyond her comfort levels and that could be causing some confused feelings.

Lovemusic82 · 25/08/2024 18:09

I did lots of stupid things at that age and my parents had no clue. She’s old enough to sort out the MAP and sti test.

Daleksatemyshed · 25/08/2024 18:17

The fact he was 25 is really neither here nor there, what's important is your DD was silly enough to have sex without precautions. Yes, she's embarrassed, and no, she doesn't want to talk to you about it, but unless she wants to be a DM at 18 she needs to make sure she's not pregnant. Telling her usual BF is another thing but that can wait

Bbq1 · 25/08/2024 18:17

violetsparkle · 25/08/2024 17:34

That's a terrible attitude. She's the same kid she was.

It's not really to do with sex. Dd is probably already having sex with her regular boyfriend. Op is saying that dd is normally a "good kid" in terms of behaviour. Obviously in London she decided to go wild, act older and willingly go home with a man. She wasn't groomed or coerced and obviously knew he wasn't using a condom. She put herself in a really unsafe, risky situation anf needs educating about that so it doesn't happen again.

Kitkat1523 · 25/08/2024 18:17

Littletreefrog · 25/08/2024 17:42

Well I think we just have different standards of behaviour we expect from older teens and thats fine cos we can't all be the same. If my teens were looking after a younger family member and allowed them to engage in such risky behaviour under their watch I would be very disappointed in them. Its one thing not stopping someone doing something but enabling them to do it is a different matter. I think OP and her DD are lucky that a possible pregnancy and/or STI is the only possible consequence.

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Hardly enabling them

x2boys · 25/08/2024 18:20

isbypalm · 25/08/2024 17:01

Thank you everyone. I will ask DD1 to maybe have the chat at first and encourage DD2 to talk to me. I think I'm just shocked, she has always been my "good kid" I never expected this from her. She went down last Saturday and came back yesterday so could be anything from a week to 2 days since it happened.

Well if she's going to talk to you don't make out she's a bad kid or that's she's done something wring ,she hasn't she's had sex
I would never have confided in my mum at that age because she was really weird about sex

Tahlbias · 25/08/2024 18:21

It's a tough one 😬

sunsetsandboardwalks · 25/08/2024 18:21

Bbq1 · 25/08/2024 18:17

It's not really to do with sex. Dd is probably already having sex with her regular boyfriend. Op is saying that dd is normally a "good kid" in terms of behaviour. Obviously in London she decided to go wild, act older and willingly go home with a man. She wasn't groomed or coerced and obviously knew he wasn't using a condom. She put herself in a really unsafe, risky situation anf needs educating about that so it doesn't happen again.

That still doesn't mean she's stopped being a good kid.

She's just a 16 year old who made a stupid decision - they all do it.

SunQueen24 · 25/08/2024 18:23

This thread reminds me of going to the pharmacist for the MAP - pharmacist v judgmental and asked what I was studying, I told him and he said “then you should know better” was an awful attitude and actually the condom had spilt with a regular partner. I was being sensible. I thought attitudes had changed. The DD in this thread isn’t bad, she’s a teenager living her life!

x2boys · 25/08/2024 18:25

LlynTegid · 25/08/2024 17:22

I agree with what you have decided to do and how to approach it.

No doubt in my mind that it was a young man influenced by porn and the culture that it brings of not using condoms.

Nothing to do with porn
In my single dats most men didn't like using condoms, they would if asked ,but only when asked ime.

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 18:25

OP you need to talk to your daughter and find out if it really was consensual.

Something jolted with me as you said you knew immediately something was wrong and the sex was unprotected. When I had that feeling about a 16 year old when I was a teacher she had been raped. That scumbag was also 25 and the bastard got her drunk then raped her.

I’m really worried about her from what you’ve written.

x2boys · 25/08/2024 18:27

MrsSunshine2b · 25/08/2024 17:30

I wouldn't describe this as "cheating." She was groomed by a much older man. There may well have been alcohol involved which she presumably has very little experience of. It's unfortunate that this isn't illegal.

The MAP and the STD test are two separate issues and she needs both. The MAP is less effective the longer you take it after unprotected sex, so she may also need a pregnancy test in a few weeks time.

Don't be ridiculous
She got drunk and had a one night stand ,it happens it's not ideal
But she wasn't groomed.

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 18:28

x2boys · 25/08/2024 18:27

Don't be ridiculous
She got drunk and had a one night stand ,it happens it's not ideal
But she wasn't groomed.

And it’s just coincidence that the OP ‘knew something was wrong’ the second she walked in then?

DaniMontyRae · 25/08/2024 18:28

MrsSunshine2b · 25/08/2024 17:30

I wouldn't describe this as "cheating." She was groomed by a much older man. There may well have been alcohol involved which she presumably has very little experience of. It's unfortunate that this isn't illegal.

The MAP and the STD test are two separate issues and she needs both. The MAP is less effective the longer you take it after unprotected sex, so she may also need a pregnancy test in a few weeks time.

Oh for fucks sake, women and girls are allowed to fuck up without it being an abusive situation by a man. She wasn't groomed. She used a fake ID to go to a club/bar then she lied about her age to a bloke before choosing to have sex with him. There is absolutely no grooming there and she did cheat on her boyfriend.

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 18:29

STIs are extremely unlikely from a one off casual sex encounter.
I presume she has had the chlamydia vaccine?

x2boys · 25/08/2024 18:29

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 18:25

OP you need to talk to your daughter and find out if it really was consensual.

Something jolted with me as you said you knew immediately something was wrong and the sex was unprotected. When I had that feeling about a 16 year old when I was a teacher she had been raped. That scumbag was also 25 and the bastard got her drunk then raped her.

I’m really worried about her from what you’ve written.

Let's not turn it into something its not.

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 18:29

DaniMontyRae · 25/08/2024 18:28

Oh for fucks sake, women and girls are allowed to fuck up without it being an abusive situation by a man. She wasn't groomed. She used a fake ID to go to a club/bar then she lied about her age to a bloke before choosing to have sex with him. There is absolutely no grooming there and she did cheat on her boyfriend.

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Oh for fucks sake you know she chose to have sex with him how exactly?

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 18:30

x2boys · 25/08/2024 18:29

Let's not turn it into something its not.

And you know this how exactly?

DaniMontyRae · 25/08/2024 18:30

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 18:28

And it’s just coincidence that the OP ‘knew something was wrong’ the second she walked in then?

Maybe she feels guilty for cheating on her boyfriend of 8 months? Maybe she's worried she may be pregnant? There was no fucking grooming. Grooming doesn't happen over the space of a couple of hours ffs.

Muthaofcats · 25/08/2024 18:30

isbypalm · 25/08/2024 17:01

Thank you everyone. I will ask DD1 to maybe have the chat at first and encourage DD2 to talk to me. I think I'm just shocked, she has always been my "good kid" I never expected this from her. She went down last Saturday and came back yesterday so could be anything from a week to 2 days since it happened.

It doesn’t make her a bad kid. It’s very normal for 16 year olds to have sex. Obviously not good to go without protection but again, she won’t be the first and hopefully it’s a lesson. The only person who should be feeling any shame is the 25 year old man. Ugh.

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She hasn’t talked to her daughter yet.

x2boys · 25/08/2024 18:32

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 18:28

And it’s just coincidence that the OP ‘knew something was wrong’ the second she walked in then?

Knowing something is wrong doesn't mean she's been raped or groomed, don't let your imagination run riot it doesn't help anyone.
She's probably upset because she regrets that's all.

hihelenhi · 25/08/2024 18:32

MrsSunshine2b · 25/08/2024 17:47

Ew, absolutely not.

Except she apparently thought he was 19, and he likely thought she was 18.

That's hardly "grooming" or "ewww" territory, is it? Bit different when everyone knows everyone's ages,

Teenagers have sex sometimes. Including having one night stands. It doesn't make her "a bad kid" or the bloke in this case a "groomer." They should, however, have used protection, it is VERY silly not to.

Teateaandmoretea · 25/08/2024 18:33

DaniMontyRae · 25/08/2024 18:30

Maybe she feels guilty for cheating on her boyfriend of 8 months? Maybe she's worried she may be pregnant? There was no fucking grooming. Grooming doesn't happen over the space of a couple of hours ffs.

It’s possible she felt guilty/ regretted it.

it is also completely possible there is more to this.