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I'm done

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CouthyMow · 23/01/2014 11:03

DD school refused this morning. First she refused to give DS1 back his iPod that he had kindly lent to her yesterday because hers is broken.

I insisted she give it back. She then decided

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CouthyMow · 14/02/2014 16:11

When this gets to around 990 posts, could someone please start an "I'm Done 2" thread, and link to this one please? I can't figure out how to link threads like that on this blooming iPad!

TIA.

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Brucietheshark · 14/02/2014 16:13

Oh Travelled that's kind but the sad truth will be that other families have an equally hard time battling to get any shred of help or support from anyone ever. And 90% of those will be families with a much bigger support network of other family than Couthy, and no disabilities themselves.

And that's without even addressing how to make time or get to these supportive gatherings. Rock CouthyMow hard place.

Sorry for chipping in :)

Brucietheshark · 14/02/2014 16:15

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Lol at naughty step. Yes I only have one SN DC and fail to cope from moment to moment!

CouthyMow · 14/02/2014 17:00

In tears now. SS have as near as dammit admitted that it is a physical impossibility to keep both DD AND DS1 safe at the same time. It really IS an either / or situation.

A rational person with a cardiac condition that leaves them at risk of hypothermia wouldn't walk around outside for eleven hours and then go missing again the very next fucking day, when it is pissing down so much I needed an ark to do the school run and it's effing freezing.

However, DD is about as FAR from rational as you can get right now. Even her friends are giving up on her because if the hassle she is causing. She is pushing EVERYONE around her away, putting herself at risk of harm.

I'm in tears here, I've either got to put DD at risk by leaving her on a wet, cold doorstep making the risk of hypothermia very real, OR put DS1 at risk by letting her in.

Their needs are diametrically opposed right now, and nobody seems able to do jack shit to help ME as a parent to keep BOTH of them safe at the same time.

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CouthyMow · 14/02/2014 17:06

I need some anti depressants but I daren't go back to my GP and ask for them as HE was the one who reported me for FII last year (SS closed the case as it was proven NOT to be FII, but crap genetics meaning lots of disabled DC's in one family...)

But I need some AD's. I'm right on the edge. I was walking home from the preschool in tears after the telling off I got for being late. God knows where DD is, what she's doing, who with, and how much danger she's putting herself in.

And I'm in tears again because there isn't the ability for anyone to help me unless SHE engages with the help and support offered.

And though the FC WILL actually have her back (it was the husband I spoke to earlier, who said that the placement had broken down), she is exasperated herself and has all but given up on DD, and was short with me on the phone. She wants me to have DD home and wait for SS to put the support in place. But if I have her home, they won't PUT that support in place as they won't see the need to.

I have apologised more times than I can remember to the FC's for DD's behaviour, but there's nothing more I can do.

I'm torn between two of my DC's, BOTH of whom need love, support, protection and safety, and NOBODY can help me to give BOTH of them that.

I'm falling to bits now. I can't cope any more. I'm not just done, I think I'm breaking. Sad

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CouthyMow · 14/02/2014 17:08

I've TRIED to detach from DD but I can't. No matter how she is behaving, she's still my child. I WANT to be able to do it, but I can't.

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ThatVikRinA22 · 14/02/2014 17:21

couhty - do you still have the out of hours social work number? ring that at gone 5 - they will step in.

might be better than the useless bloke.

stand firm.

AllThatGlistens · 14/02/2014 17:21

Oh Couthy Sad

I'm so so very sorry that you're having to suffer this fucking ridiculous nightmare.

I know I'm not remotely useful in terms of practical advice or support, but I want you to know that you're not alone, I'm here and listening, so to speak. I have disabled dc myself (still babies though really) and was also a troubled teen, so I can understand a small part of what you must be feeling.

The way you and your DC are being let down is appalling, it really is. Is there any way you could see a different/ more approachable GP to get some ADs prescribed?

Travelledtheworld · 14/02/2014 17:21

I was thinking about a support group in relation to Couthys youngest child. These parents will know about respite care, childminders who can cope with SN and parents who are willing to step up and help in an emergency.

We have a fantastic group in our county.

ThatVikRinA22 · 14/02/2014 17:22

i posted the number somewhere on here but i think i wrote it down too somewhere in my notebook - ill be back in a bit. DH has just cooked so if you cant find it i will search it out again.

MrsCakesPremonition · 14/02/2014 17:33

Couthy - Have you come across SNAP? I don't know if they can help at all, but the people from SNAP who I have met have been very good.

CouthyMow · 15/02/2014 09:34

DD was at her boyfriend's house. Having tea. His mum found out what the situation was and rang me. After tea, she took DD back to the FC! DD didn't make a bit of a fuss?!

Took me a bit of ringing around but I got there in the end.

The boyfriend's mum is lovely, and has had a big chat with DD, explaining that DD needs to pull herself together, because she isn't going to want her son dating someone who is off the rails. The FC said DD actually seemed to listen!

Soooo we shall see if it has ANY impact.

But at least, DD is at the FC over the weekend and it's going to be far harder for her to abscond.

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SalaciousCrumb · 15/02/2014 10:07

Couthy I've read your thread - while I have no experience of what you're going through, but my 11 yo ds has anger and anxiety issues :( I also work for local government call centre and speak to many parents trying to cope and needing children's services.

So glad to hear at least you have an ally in dd's boyfriend's mum; there's a consequence there that she cares about. Now she's gone back to FC can you relax a bit over the weekend? Could you see another GP if this one is no help?

CouthyMow · 15/02/2014 17:49

DD is safe at the FC's. She is going out with her Boyfriend this evening, but she arranged it all, and the boyfriend's parents will be there too! The boyfriend's parents are going to deliver her back to the FC's, where she is likely to remain until Monday morning. So at least I will know her whereabouts until 3.15pm on Monday afternoon! Smile

I'm feeling really run down today, the cold I've had for over a week is getting worse, and I doubt the stress is helping that. I feel as rough as a badger's arse tbh.

I'm hoping that by the end of the weekend, after lots of rest, and knowing where DD is, that I will feel a little better, as I need to tackle my house, which seems to have gone to the dogs this week. It looks like it's a blooming health hazard!

Changing GP's is going to happen, but it's going to mean a taxi each way as the only surgery with spaces is not accessible by bus and is too far (and hilly) for me to walk, given my arthritis. Which is why I've been putting it off - despite my current surgery being further away, I can get there by bus.

I can't put that off any longer.

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CouthyMow · 15/02/2014 17:51

(There's only one GP at my current surgery, unless you can manage to get an appointment with the lady GP that goes there ONE evening - right over dinner time, and I also have an hour's journey each way - a MONTH)

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TheABC · 15/02/2014 23:19

Hi Couthy

I have been lurking on this thread, wincing and cheering at your battles to help your DD. You sound like a fantastic mum, doing her best in a really crappy set of circumstances. I am glad you have an unexpected ally with DS's boyfriends mum. Goodness knows, it's time you caught a break with the situation.

I hope you get the chance to rest and catch your breath this weekend. Have a mumsnetty hug, as well!

CouthyMow · 16/02/2014 11:20

DD went back to the FC without a squeak after the dance. She is going out with her boyfriend again this evening, again chaperoned by his mum. Who now also knows that he was meeting Dd outside school as he finished College before she finishes school, and that's why she was refusing to get in the transport.

Arrangements have been made that she can see him a few nights a week, and that she will have transport to/from his between the FC and his Mum.

She seems very on the ball! WinkGrin

FC said that DD is struggling with her desire to see her boyfriend against it being controlled by his mum, so we shall see how that ends.

She was well behaved when she popped in yesterday to get a dress to wear, although peeved that her feet are now too big to fit in MY shoes...

Will be ringing DD in a bit. Maybe sort out a short visit for half term.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that things start to settle down now Dd realises we aren't trying to stop her seeing THIS boyfriend, just the last one, which was for a good reason...

DD will not be getting her Blackberry back for the foreseeable future, as she isn't capable of keeping herself safe on it. She will be getting a basic mobile.

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CouthyMow · 17/02/2014 14:13

DD still behaving, still at FC. I don't expect that to last beyond tomorrow afternoon when she is not tied up by appointments and wishes to see her school friends, mind you. I will update properly soon.

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mathanxiety · 17/02/2014 14:14

Enjoy it while it lasts. Hope you've been getting a little sleep.

CouthyMow · 17/02/2014 18:41

Not a huge amount, but my arthritis is bad in this weather...

Had YOTS panel tonight. DD could not have been less bothered, even found it funny. Angry

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LastingLight · 19/02/2014 18:20

Couthy how are you? What is happening?

RevoltInParadise · 21/02/2014 01:27

Have read this whole thread in one sitting. I have no advice but I am in awe of you. It all sounds totally overwhelming and yet you are still, just!, standing. I know you won't think so, but you should be proud of yourself and your love for all of your dc shines through in all of your posts.

Travelledtheworld · 21/02/2014 19:03

How are you Couthy, and your boys ? Have you had to struggle through Half term ? Where is your DD this weekend ?

mathanxiety · 22/02/2014 05:06

Just wondering if everything is ok?

CouthyMow · 23/02/2014 04:16

An update : DD is coming home after school on Monday. She has behaved for the FC this week, telling everyone where she will be and who she will be with, and going back to the FC's on time.

Until tonight. When she didn't go where she said she would, and didn't have her new basic mobile (with no fb or BBM on) because she'd left it in her boyfriend's mum's car. That's where she was MEANT to go, to her boyfriend's house, to pick it up.

Instead she went to our old estate with her mates, without letting anyone know.

I did the usual ringing around her mates to find her, got told by one that she wasn't with DD, so I informed that friend that if she DID see DD, to let her know that as there had been no contact, the FC was going to have to report her as an abscond at 7.45pm.

That that mate said she wasn't with DD had a distinct whiff of cod about it, because DD rang me from a number I didn't recognise at 7.35...just 10 minutes before she would have been reported as an abscond!

She didn't turn up at my house until 9.15 (!) when where she was she should have been here at 8.40 at the LATEST. She then proceeded to bug me for money, be downright rude non-stop, and start saying that she WILL be going out tomorrow. Despite having spent so much of her pocket money from the FC that she had to borrow the bus fare home for tonight.

She was rude about not having her phone, rude because I literally have no spare cash until Tuesday (mostly because I bought her effing birthday present, not that she knows that...), rude because I can't give her £10 a week pocket money like the FC can - I can only do £5 a week, rude because I've told her that I can only give her ONE bus fare at weekends because I don't have the money, and if she wants to go out both weekend days, she will have to pay the bus fare out of her pocket money. Same rules DS1 has to abide by. Rude because she was angling to stay the night because it will facilitate her bloody social life...

Accepting NO responsibility that while she might be ALLOWED to go out tomorrow, it was her choice to spend her entire £10 pocket money in one day, so that she doesn't have the money for bus fare, accepting NO responsibility for the fact that while she might WANT a phone, she had the opportunity and money to pick hers up today but CHOSE not to, arguing that the FC should let her make calls to mobiles from the FC's LL...

I do NOT see next week going well...

I do not see how this is possibly going to work, with DD thinking that what she wants is all that matters, still being verbally aggressive to try to get that, which will no doubt escalate into intimidation and violence once she is actually home, especially as she knows that SS are point blank REFUSING to pay for FC any further.

The FC confided in me today that if DD wasn't coming home on Monday, she would have had to move placement as the FC cannot cope with her any more. I have a feeling that this has pushed the review panel into forcing her home before any actual PLANS of what form the ongoing support is going to be.

All I currently have is weekly meetings with Dbit set up, who supposedly can help with flashpoints like getting DD ready for school, yet no actual appointments set up to help me know WHEN I will be getting that support, an offer of a day tobogganing on two person toboggans (yes, thoroughly helpful for a physically disabled parent with arthritis who has a 3yo with NO suitable Childcare due to his disabilities. The offer of 'he can sit in a chair and watch' made me guffaw with laughter. They fail to understand hyperactivity and development delay that means he functions at a level of a not-quite 2yo at 3yo...and sitting down is an alien concept to him, hence the FT 1-2-1 at preschool...

Nnnnnnngggggggg!!!

All I keep getting from the SW is "it's very difficult to book the appointments before she comes home, Dbit work with the family together in the home, and they book their next appointment when they are there, not in advance..."

DD just keeps saying "stop banging on, I've heard it all before" and is obviously not bothering to listen when I try to talk to her about how things need to be when she comes home.

She's also getting angry that I can't give her the three things she wants for her 16th Birthday. But each one ALONE is £££!

She wants an iPod Classic, to replace her worn out, broken nano. Done, I paid half, her dad paid half, they're 170 bloody quid!!

She wants a pair of professional quad skates, like all her friends (and they DO all have them FFS) ...cost around £200. Erm, nope, can't afford it, more than the entire budget I have for her birthday...

And last but not least, she wants to go for a shopping spree at Westfield like her close mate did just after Christmas for HER birthday. She wants £300 like her mate got...erm...nope again, that's doubled my entire budget for EVERYTHING for DD's birthday.

She keeps arguing that she's only asked for 3 things, it's her 16th Birthday, and it comes to far less than her friends got for THEIR 16th Birthdays. Again, I have seen the fb evidence myself, and she's right - most of them MUST have had a good grand at least spent on them.

How the FUCK can I get her to realise that I have around 1/10 of her friends parent's budgets?! And get her to stop being rude and obnoxious towards me?

When I knew my mother couldn't afford to buy ME the things I wanted, I went out and got a fucking job. Two actually...babysitting (quite lucrative, actually, I took on a job with a girl with severe Autism and her sister, nobody else would, and I taught her how to say "hiya mum". She was 10, and it was the first time her mum had heard her SAY mum. Grin) but I did other babysitting jobs too, AND I took a Saturday job in a shop.

I EARNT the extra money I wanted, because I realised that my stepdad wasn't earning that much and my mother had had to give up work to look after my DBro with Aspergers.

Why can't DD bloody GRASP THE CONCEPT that we are piss poor and I haven't got a fucking money tree in the garden, feeling hard done by is pointless, she COULD get up and do something about it, she could do dog walking (there's a niche here, no dog walkers, oodles of dogs, a massive field that you are allowed to walk the dogs on, she could make a bloody killing, but won't because she refuses to pick up poo...).

Aaarrrrgghhhhh!

I don't know what to do if the support vanishes into the mist once DD is back.

On the plus side, YOTS (Youth Offending Team) are going to...get THEIR ED PSYCH to see DD.

Which is nothing short of a fucking miracle.

DD has been on SA+ (School Action Plus) since she was THREE YEARS OLD. She has only seen an EP twice in her entire school career - once when she was 5yo, after a huge amount of fighting, and again AFTER her SATS in Y6 when she was 11 - and I had to threaten the LA with legal action to get that.

She is now in Y11, and hasn't been seen by an EP in FIVE FUCKING YEARS.

She is being given over 21 hours a week on SA+, which is only meant to be used if the child needs 15 hours OR LESS help - anything over 15 hours SHOULD = a Statement, yet our LA still refuse to even assess her, and I don't have the energy for an appeal and/or legal action that I can't afford. My LA has ILLEGAL blanket levels which they have been fined for repeatedly in. Court, yet I've seen evidence with my own eyes, as the SenCo of DS2's junior school was quite open (I think she was angling for me to take legal action on the basis of this document that was left openly on the table that I wasn't meant to see IYSWIM...) that they DO in fact have illegal blanket levels before they will agree to assess.

Very conveniently, DS2 is ONE sub level above the illegal level 'required' for SA+ in literacy, and DD is ONE sub level above the illegal level 'required' before my LA will even ASSESS for a statement...

Hmm

But an EP assessment!! YOTS want ALL her LD's dxd officially (they were, when she was preschool age, but conveniently all records got lost when the CDC moved from the old building to the new one, and my records aren't being accepted as I 'may have falsified them' according to the LA...). They want this so that they can see how her SPECIFIC LD's affect her in day to day life.

Maybe it will get me closer to where I need to be with understanding and helping her through this time.

She's still not doing well with the thought of transition from school to College - College seems nice, and fun, and interesting because it's what she wants to do - but the reality of it is getting to her, and she just doesn't want to leave school!!

Half term has been ok, DS1 has spent a few days up and down to his dad's (he can't stay overnight due to lack of space), though he's missing his half brother and half sister there as his dad isn't able to see them right now because his ex is a contact blocking biatch who doesn't give a shite about the effect not seeing his siblings will have on DS1, she just wants to hurt DS1's dad. so he's trying to deal with that - the last time he saw them was Christmas Eve. Same as his dad. Who is struggling because he is waiting for a court date.

DS2 is going through the 10yo testosterone surge, and is growing, but also becoming surly, and like a teenager already. Deep joy - three of the bloody things now! Grin

DS3 has had his first hair cut, all his ginger curls gorn, and he looks like a big boy now, not my baby. Sad It was time though - the other DC's at preschool were putting his hair up in hair bands in the role play bit! not that he minded as long as he got the Cinderella dress.

Major ruckus with my booze laden mother, but that was a couple of days ago now, and all is quiet on the Western Front there for now. DBro coping as best he can, hiding out of mothers way. Stepdad losing the fucking plot, think mother's drinking is tipping him over the edge!

Sorry for the epic post, massive update, will post again Monday evening, after I've seen how the first night back has gone. Have a SW appointment first, then an appointment with Dbit with me and Dd together. That's going to be fun...

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