WWW's 10 year younger bootcamp, July 2008

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Hello everyone, old and new.

This is about feeling better about yourself and looking and feeling better etc. But mainly we chat and laugh quite a lot, which has all got to help towards happiness etc.

The rules (anyone can join):

• Sunscreen at all times - REALLY mean this now summer is here.

• No or little booze. Wine or Champagne or whatever at the weekend is allowed if you want it

• Walking is important, a small amount every day if possible. 30 mins if you can

• Lots of water, aim for 2 litres a day

• Apply body cream as often as possible

• Use hand cream

• Go to bed early, by 10.30pm if pos

• Eat healthily

• Be happy

The idea is that we all feel happier, healthier and glow with the good food, sleep, exercise, water and lack of sun damage.

Some people are doing India and Neris's Idiot Proof Diet (Atkins, more or less), others are doing Slimy World, others are just being as healthy as possible.

Welcome everyone, have a good week.

I didn't have pmt for three months obviously, lol, shudders at the thought!

Thank you for all your kind words everyone. The thing that has annoyed me most about this whole period is that I have cut out the "other" stuff, i.e. crisps, nuts, toast, biscuits, ice cream, etc. except for the odd indulgence (and I am being truthful there). I may keep a food diary again although I know what it will say more or less.. Even my trainer was shocked and for the last few weeks has been programmimng the machines assuming a pretty respectable weightloss. She was lost for words for the first time ever! My whole day has been influenced by this and that annoys me more than anything. Do you know that I walked in to the gym this morning feeling perky and toned and left feeling older and saggier and only, ONLY, because of what the scales showed. If I smoked I would be puffing furiously at the moment exasperated by myself.

L&S - your experience sounds pretty much like mine. I await the fat test results with trepidation.

I do think I eat enough and for the last X weeks "I am not the dustbin" has been my mantra. I am no angel but I really have cut out so much from my daily eating and have increased my activity so that whenever possible I incorporate something active in to my day.

Saggar - age probably is a factor. I am 40 and have noticed so many changes this year. There are so many things I could post about but am too emabarrassed (too many rs?).

I am not hugely overweight - would be thin if I lost a stone but quite content to be half a stone lighter.

Moonshine - I have looked closely at everything and I just can't identify the problem. Perhaps a proper diet like WW or Slimy is the answer but I was so sure that moderation and exercise would do the trick.

And so to the morning. I will post my fat score for further deliberation.

Duch - much envy at regaining figure post Archie.

Prufrock - boobs sound great (not meant in pervy way obviously).

Have just finished work for today (I will never get on with the in bed by 10:30pm rule due to work, sadly)

Have had a raging headache today, but have stuck with it and have had no real tea/coffee today. I'm sure I will emerge phoenix-like next week with tons of energy. Anyway, had chicken fried in a knob of butter and garlic with some salad for supper. It was YUMMY. Plus I haven't really felt hungry all day (except for getting back from Telford at 12:30, I was quite ravenous, but I did eat breakfast at 5am) I also haven't felt the need to pick either. I have drank 9 pints of water, which probably has something to do with it.

Yoyo - Stick with it. A friend of mine plataued for months, but suddenly she found her extra weight came off. You are doing a sterling job by the sound of it. Can you feel a difference with your clothes? I think that's the acid test more than weight tbh. Especially if you are doing lots of excercise.

Batters - I will CAT you if you like, otherwise you can e-mail me: [email protected]. It will make a nice change to get an e-mail that isn't offering me an instant solution to my flaccid micro pecker issues.

Prufrock - v. of your perky boobs (even if they are yellow!) I can throw mine over my shoulders.

I'm sorry if I don;t mention you all, because without going through all the posts in a toady fashion, I am useless!

Have a good day tomorrow chaps!

hello all

Sorry not to have been around. Again. Am struggling this week (it's me hormones, dontcha know) and feeling a bit sorry for myself and lardy/out of condition, so stayed at the back and ate crisps. Still, feeling much jollier now and going to try to keep up more.

Had a quick skim. Loving the norks, Pru. Marina - older mothers ROCK. We are serene and wise. All in strife - today is Friday and there will be wine for those who wish.

More later. Love to all.

yoyo, I have honestly given up on trying to lose weight. My scales seem to be permanently stuck just under 11 stone, and have been since I had ds. But in that time I have gone from size 16 trousers being tight, to being comfortable in size 12's, my fitness (also due to PT) has increased immeasurably, and my arms and legs have muscle definition that was never there before. In one 6 week period I lost 3 inches off my waist (thank you flexibar) and yet over the same period I put on 2lbs. Does your trainer measure you? I've found that to be a far better indicator.

Morning booters,

Glad to hear you're healing up well, Pru, congratulations to DONB on snapping back into shape and to Batters on being pursued by karate-chopping Greek God.

Had enormous wobble last night and sobbed into glasses of wine over house moving difficulties. Dh going away this w/e which makes me feel worse.

BUT have slapped myself into some sort of shape this morning, we all went to the park together before breakfast with our adorable puppy and I remembered how lucky we are .

We saw great house yesterday which we'll try to rent. COuld be moving in a month or less.

Must try to keep chins up. Bootcamping good for this. But have to do some work now, see ou all later

Unknown -surely some (city) shorts for Lord Coe to show a sporty side to you . Sorry but I'm crap at things like this, but don't think you can go far wrong with some nice wide trousers and a part-fitted blouse/tunic? Or a pretty dress (Phase Eight has some lush stuff atm) plus fitted jacket?

Yoyo - am looking forward to 'fat' results! I have scales that are supposed to measure it and, whilst I know they are not accurate, I am curious to know how far out they are but am not sure I can let someone prod me with callipers - is that how you are being done? Which bits do they 'grab' if it is?

The plumbers are in today so I haven't been able to go to the gym. But I have cleaned the cupboard, fridge, dishwater and washing doors. For the first time. Ever. May even be forced to do the inside of the microwave. But cannot contemplate the oven (drudge, drudge drudge).

Unknwon, wasn;t remotely telling you not to make assumptions! Bet she does have PMT!
Sorry to hear your boys are being a PITA too. They?re all ready for the end of term the offspring of the bootcampers on this thread, aren?t they? No idea on the formal assembly but it sounds exciting!

Yoyo, sorry you are so discouraged, I SO know the feeling and I sympathise, I feel the same if the scales don?t say what I want, it colours my whole day. Feel free to post about the 40+ changes, plenty of us fortysomethings on this thread, someone will have been there. (but you don?t have to, obv!)

Hey Sheik, that sounds like a good day. The easiest thing about this diet for me is never feeling hungry, I really don?t. Honestly, you will feel better once you?re on day 5 or so, well I did anyway. And I do generally feel a lot better for it. Don?t weigh until day 14, you will be very pleased. And don?t worry aobut responding to everyone?s posts, no-one expects you to, this thread is like a conversation and not everyone joins in at every point in the discussion!

Chutney, sorry oyu had not a great week, hope next week is better.

Eemie, sorry to hear about house moving probs, moving is a pita. But glad you?ve seen somewhere nice.

Moonshine, ikwym, can?t imagine letting anyone near me with a pair of callipers either!

Was in bed by 10.30 and asleep by 10.45, having finished Beach Babylon, which I started on the train earlier.

Breakfast was 3 chipolatas
Salami and cheese as a snack
And just had some mackerel pate, which I made last night for lunch, it was lovely: a mackerel fillet mashed up with aioli and grated horseradish and black pepper
Used sunscreen
Having a VERY easy day at work, in fact have had an easy week, lovely.
And looking forward to going out to dinner with friends tonight and then staying in a 5 star hotel for a small amount of money

Happy weekend everyone!

And the fat test results are..shocking! I did not have calipers but electrode pads so spared that particular humiliation.
I am apparently 36.1% fat and this weighs 24 kg (insert as many f words as you like here - that is what I did). The recommended range for my age and height is 21 - 27% or 12 - 15 kg. My resting pulse is also very high. I am also dehydrated which can affect accuracy of results apparently. Do I have to say how I feel? My waist has INCREASED by a few cm and my hips have reduced by a few. Crappity, crappity, crap.
I am now keeping a food diary, drinking even more water (will be peeing like a horse) and feeling more than a tad despondent. My trainer was dumbfounded too.

And this morning I found a lump in my breast but can't see a doctor until next Thursday.

It is sunny and I may go for a tearful walk as I have also exchanged words with DD1 about her work again.

Oh yoyo - how worrying for you. Can you not get seen sooner? Try to remember that most breats lumps are nothing to worry about. Do you do hugs? Have one anyway. ((hug))

My fat thingy is 31% - so has improved but is only 'average' and not 'good'. I want to be good. I do mine on the scales at Boots so probably wildly inaccurate. I also seem to have shrunk by .4 of an inch - I definitely used to be 5ft 6

My oven is in a dreadful state moonshine

Yoyo that is crap (finding lump and not being seen for nearly a week). I can imagine it's hard to be objective but the odds are definitely against it being anything significant. Hope a good old fashioned tearfest helps you somewhat - nothing like a good cry to release some tension.

Yoyo, sorry you have that anxiety. I waited weeks after finding a lump (between GP and hospital - it was before the targets) - but it did turn out to be benign, as most are. Not that that's particularly helpful to you at the moment, sorry.

yoyo I'm not expecting you to be reassured but you do know that the vast majority of lumps are completely harmless?
Bugger about the fat test. Are you at all ready to look at it positively and think about how terrible it would have been if you hadn't been exercising like you have?

I'm drinking wine again. But I did manage to shave my armpits today (with dh's help ) so now feel slightly less smelly

Yoyo, sorry to hear that, echo everyone else but I hope you get some reassurance on Tuesday.

Yoyo, jeez, what a day. Hope you're ok. As everyone's said, chances are the lump is nothing sinister, but I guess that doesn't really help much at this point. And as to the fat measure thing - how very very frustrating. What did your PT say? Any words of wisdom? Can she suggest a more fat-burning programme for you?

Woke up this morning after a troubled sleep and thought that maybe it wouldn't be there. Unfortunately it still is. Breast also feels very sore on that side. Am ringing surgery on Monday to try and get an emergency appointment but I will explain to the receptionist the reason for wanting one. Am trying not to worry and know that these things happen from time to time. Not the rational thoughts you have whilst listening to the rain in the dead of night though.

Have had a very lethargic day and have been bickering with DH for much of it. Tomorrow will be better.

Thanks all for your concern. I haven't mentioned it to RL friends yet so I really do appreciate your comments.

Yoyo, I think the pain may be a good sign as cancerous lumps tend not to be painful. Coukd it be some kind of abscess or infection in the tissue? You poor thing, you must be beside yourself with worry. Get the emergency appointment darling so you can put your mind at rest a bit. Thinking of you.

Hello everyone else, hope your weekends are going well.

Just to echo chutney - pain usually means infected spot. i had one last year on holiday. My breast felt tender, and had a lump, and when I woke up a couple of mornings later also had a huge boil on the underside (which of course I squeezed . It ended up being so badly infected that I had red lines going all over my boob in the blood vessels! It's not a nice thing to have, but I do so hope that's what yours is (in the nicest possible way)

Sending positive vibes Yoyo.

Yoyo - another one echoing what others say. The pain is a v.g. sign, even though it's not nice I'll wager that it's something like a harmless cyst. Hope you get an appointment tomorrow. If not, do you have a walk-in centre? Our local one is pretty good. You'd be able to be seen today, just to put your mind at rest.

I agree with the others yoyo. Pain is a good sign. Hope you can get an appointment soon.

ureb - don't you get sick of the attitude shown towards your dh's profession? You remember ds had his application deferred until October - he had a letter on Saturday asking him to call next week and arrange an interview for the end of July. Not sure what's happened there.

Bootcamp is OK. No running this weekend due to inclement weather, no booze though. Diet OK but carbtastic again - I can't help it. Stress levels a bit too high.

It's very wearing.

Can you cope with being the mother of an ignorant; insensitive; donut-munching -twat; cunt; a keystone cop; who goes around harrassing people?

Oh, but young .

And I wonder why he can't wait to retire?

Good luck to DS though, seriously.

How's DS2?

Yoyo - just to add my two penn'th worth - pain does sound good. I really hope you can get an emergency appointment to put your mind at rest.

Not a bad bootcamp weekend for me. Although dh has gone to a conference until next week so it's a cream and cheese laden diet for me in the vain hope of getting some calories into ds. He is a boy who Does. Not. Eat. A healthy child won't starve themselves and all that.....

Hope everyone is having a lovely weekend

And I really enjoyed explaining to DS3 why DH's mud-encrusted stabbie had been dumped in the middle of the kitchen floor this morning... (nothing major as it happens this time, and yes I should have moved it but forgot )

Oh hum.

But I guess it goes with the territory and most of the time I just raise my eyebrows and move on.