I’m broke, what can take the place of Botox?

[FloodlightsOnTheSquare]

I’ve been getting my 11s, forehead, and crows feet done for about 3/4 years, usually every 7-8 months.

But now I’m broke, and my crows feet in particular are beginning to bother me, and my left eyelid feels a bit droopy and uncomfortable.

Is there anything that remotely compares? I can’t use tret, i have eczema and my skin can’t take it.

Does anyone have any ideas? Please?

Good diet, sleep and exercise. Don't smoke. Use sunscreen.

How old are you?

Yes I do all that. I have very few lines, but gravity is now working against me!

Theres no question mark in my post, so I didnt ask you a question.

The op did however ask "Is there anything that remotely compares?" (Direct quote from the op.)

All youve done is rambled on about acceptance which is great for you, but has not answered the ops question despite you saying you have.

Eta - I've read the rest of your post now and can see you're extremely confused.

DARVO in action.

And I hear shite about Love Island everywhere but I just ignore it and continue on with my life, instead of haranguing people chatting about it.

Very odd that you can’t seem to grasp that nobody enjoys being hectored and lectured.

Oh, but you have given yourself a little medal in your head for fighting the good fight. It’s ever so pompous.

Honestly mate, it’s because your posts are annoying and have derailed what was a helpful thread.

Good work 👍👍

@DeftGoldHedgehog

yeah…all that is not going to to what Botox does. Plus most people who get Botox do all that stuff anyway. I do. So not good advice

I'll say that to the girls in my gym tomorrow, that they are obsessed and need more hobbies, these women who have loads of hobbies already, work hard on their bodies, hold down professional jobs and have children, cook from scratch etc. We all have the same outlook in that we have treatment for ourselves because we want to!
Some training for marathons, iron woman etc.... we all have the same aesthetic doctor who is amazing!

Retinal (stronger than Retinol). I use a K-beauty cream (very sparingly) on alternate nights along wrinkle lines. Recommended to me by a Korean K-beauty industry insider. It’s €15 on Amazon. It’s not Botox, but there are a lot of great technologies out there now.

Has it had a good effect @Oriunda

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@corblimeygvnr🤣🤣🤣

Too early to tell. Only been a week or so.

I’m not denying my age 😊

More mean girl behaviour I see.

Me neither. I happily tell people my age and that I get Botox 🤷‍♀️

I don’t enjoy being lectured by society to improve my looks, engage in Botox, try to appear younger than I am. I also feel harangued by the constant, relentless marketing of Botox. It’s not possible to ignore. It’s everywhere and getting worse. Hence I want to fight against it.

You want to eradicate your lines/wrinkles. This is denying your age.

You will know plenty of people who have Botox.
You will like and admire those people and they won’t ever tell you they get it.
Just like many women shave their legs, dye their hair, whiten their teeth, get rid of varicose veins, get teeth braces, get their nails done, pierce their ears etc, have breast reductions, get tattoos.
They want to feel better about themselves.
You obviously don’t feel the need to do these things and there is nothing wrong with that either.
The great thing is we can do as we please as we live in a country which allows us to do so. It’s really not a big deal.

You could have ignored this particular thread though, if you don’t enjoy it, but here YOU STILL ARE.

No one's lecturing you and there's no pressure. You can't fight against other people's choices and preferences. Just get on with your own life.

I think it’s important to be the voice for the other side. I was talking about the constant pressure from social media, television, billboard advertising, magazines, newspapers, to change looks and try to look younger.

For example (Health Correspondent BBC News), how do you feel about the below?

“Young people are turning to cosmetic procedures such as botox and dermal fillers as a result of social media pressure, according to a report.
A study by the Nuffield Council on Bioethics says government must protect people from an unregulated industry.
The report also condemns makeover apps and online plastic surgery games aimed at children as young as nine.
The authors fear such apps are contributing to growing anxieties around body image.
Much of the cosmetic procedures industry is unregulated so reliable data on its size is hard to come by.
In 2015 one market research company estimated the UK market could be worth as much as £3.6bn.
But there is little doubt it has grown significantly over the past decade.
Focus on body image
The report identifies several factors that are encouraging young people in particular to focus on body image.
These include increasing levels of anxiety around appearance, the rise of social media where photos can receive positive or negative ratings and the popularity of celebrity culture, complete with airbrushed images and apparently perfect lifestyles.

Prof Jeanette Edwards says the panel was shocked to discover plastic surgery apps aimed at young girls
Prof Jeanette Edwards, from the University of Manchester, who chaired the council's inquiry into ethical issues surrounding cosmetic procedures, said some of the evidence around games aimed at younger children had surprised the panel.
"We've been shocked by some of the evidence we've seen, including make-over apps and cosmetic surgery 'games' that target girls as young as nine.
"There is a daily bombardment from advertising and through social media channels like Facebook, Instagram and Snapchat that relentlessly promote unrealistic and often discriminatory messages on how people, especially girls and women, 'should' look."