I’m broke, what can take the place of Botox?

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I’ve been getting my 11s, forehead, and crows feet done for about 3/4 years, usually every 7-8 months.

But now I’m broke, and my crows feet in particular are beginning to bother me, and my left eyelid feels a bit droopy and uncomfortable.

Is there anything that remotely compares? I can’t use tret, i have eczema and my skin can’t take it.

Does anyone have any ideas? Please?

Oh you are FABULOUS ⭐️⭐️⭐️

Ive yet to figure out what a bear might do to my face, but I will figure it out 😁

Reedle stuff? Is that the stuff with spicules? Do you ever watch DR Dray? I saw her saying the spicules can embed in the dermal layers potentially for years and may cause issues further down the line.. she advises against spicules. FYI.
dermarolling is safer.

@Honeyhonay is that in relation to the old advert years ago 'Not happy Jan'? Christ that brings me back!

Why don't you start a thread on that then as opposed to derailing one?

It's more to do with the language you use and your tone and attitude.

@rapid3874greekyoghurt 'It’s been a constant stream of attributing hateful and negative things to aging. And this is from women themselves. Women telling other women that aging skin is disgusting and undesirable. So we’ve no chance. Crack on with your Botox ladies.'

I posted to say that at my age (71) neither myself or those I know had ever experienced the negativity that you keep suggesting is going on. You obviously weren't satisfied to know this because you then posted a reply with a link to an article trying to demonstrate that older women are definitely going to be mocked, marginalised and ignored.

You're the one who's determined to attribute aging as negative.

The foreo bear is quite a good microcurrent device, and it can, if used daily, give you a forehead lift, and soften 11 lines. A bit! Not a lot!

Seriously??

I never heard of it before, someone suggested here… thanks for this will go google !!!

And such a shame that fathers pass this on to their sons... But no, let's blame the OP

Thanks @MyrtlethePurpleTurtlebut don’t worry about me, I literally don’t care 🤣

I care more about my droopy eyelid!

This thread is literally teeming with what is wrong with looking old 😂 😂

Ah you mean I’m not scared of the bullies on this thread and I’m confident and assertive?

I like my wrinkled face. Deliberately putting an adjective into brackets is a common literacy tactic to frame the subject in an offensive manner.

I have a right to answer the question from the OP. Just like you do.

What is wrong with Love Island?

I am not embarrassed at all. 🤷‍♀️

Am I though? An alternative to Botox, especially when the thread title focussing on the high cost of it, is accepting your aging self. As pointed out by others too.

Op was asking what compares to botox.

Embracing her face as is, will of course not be a comparison to botox.

So you havent answered the question. You have done the equivalent of wandering into a McDonalds and hounding everyone about why they eat burgers.

I didn’t say there was anything wrong with it. I’ve never seen it. Why is why I wouldn’t involve myself in a conversation about it.

See what I mean?

Yeah we can tell by your ridiculous posts you are not embarrassed. Ever. About anything. Never known anyone as intent on derailing a thread in my life ever before. Get help for your deep insecurity. Your projection is painful to witness.

Thank you for the continued insults.

No not really because I see Botox everywhere and there is mass pressure to conform to it.

Incorrect. The thread reads what can ‘take the place of it’. And as several posters have said, acceptance of aging can.

I’m not sure what question you have asked me that you are saying I have not answered? Are you asking why I haven’t walked into macdonalds to ask people why they are eating burgers? If this is the question I am happy to
answer it.

Eating burgers is not linked to the age old sexism that youth and beauty is. Youth and beauty, and the pressure to conform, and spend a lot of time, expense and mental anguish on, has historically been reserved u fairly, for women , and not men. Men are valued much more than women for their brains, aptitude and other accomplishments. Hence the prominence of older, middle aged men often being portrayed as still handsome, desirable and accomplished. The obsession with attributing high value to women
for their looks and youth is damaging many young women and girls, particularly as many are now growing up around the harmful influence of social media - where youth and beauty are pushed relentlessly (for money/profit) meaning that female teenage mental health is on the floor. Female teenage suicide has surged - research shows trying to live up to the pressure to look a certain way is a key factor in many cases.
There is a growing campaign by an organisation called safer screens and others that documents and explains the dangers behind this kind of pressure. I’d like to protect my own children from this. I don’t feel my children are exposed or impacted in the same way to burgers, or in the same disproportionate way. In short, burgers don’t worry me when it comes to women and girls self esteem and mental health.

What am I insecure about? And what am I projecting? I stand up for women’s’ rights and health. I’m not scared to do that even when being abused by many posters. There is zero information in my posts that suggests I am insecure or projecting. Most people attack aggressively when someone has raised a point that they are uncomfortable about. I think for some posters on here they feel the need to attack me because they are uncomfortable with a different viewpoint to theirs. The barrage of hate is quite telling.