WWW's 10 year younger thread: the devil's own drivel - all welcome

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Hello everyone, anyone is welcome to join.

The rules (anyone can join):

This is about feeling better about yourself...not necessarily a diet per se etc etc

• Sunscreen at all times - REALLY mean this now summer is here.

• No or little booze. Wine or Champagne or whatever at the weekend is allowed if you want it

• Walking is important, a small amount every day if possible. 30 mins if you can

• Lots of water, aim for 2 litres a day

• Apply body cream as often as possible

• Use hand cream

• Go to bed early, by 10.30pm if pos

• Eat healthily

• Be happy

The idea is that we all feel happier, healthier and glow with the good food, sleep, exercise, water and lack of sun damage.

However, some of us (me and Suzywong) are doing India and Neris's Idiot Proof Diet (Atkins, more or less), others are doing Slimy World, others are doing the having-four-children-and-livestock-to-manage. LoveandSqualor is trying to put on weight

Anyway, we do a lot of chatting about life and everything on this thread but amongst it all we often post how we're feeling and what we ate and it acts as a conscience. Some of the time

Happy shiny new week everyone.

oh torty forgeddaboudit

I felt bad that I may have upset you! Which I would never want to do as you are one of a very short list of posters on mumsnet who I genuinely never want to upset

What was the scrap on the other thread about then?

Enid, ikwym about misery enjoying company or something. I don't think it's no carbs, I think it's bad night sleep last night and night before, some nightmares (not for any reason, dreamt was preg on Sat and felt v v anxious about that, am not btw!) bored of commuting and job, want some romance and glamour in my life where there is none atm. I was especially irritated at dh eating (and thus smelling of) cheese and onion crisps on Saturday night, and not because I wanted them, I can take or leave crisps, just because it seemed to exemplify TEDIOUS boring sitting at home watching telly slippers on pyjamas on boredom and middle age and fking screaming boringness. Anyone get what I mean? He normally smells of Jo Malone lime basil and mandarin so I shouldn't moan. But I will And I admitted to my sister today that I don't want to go to her party because I think I look so shit. So that made me cry. Was muttering India Knights words "the totally brilliant thing is, we can get un fat!" to try to cheer myself up. Anyhoo, sorry for moaning on, the day's got to get better.

Fanella, thanks for that, interesting. The India book is v good on 'why we got fat' - some really true stuff there. Well done on the 2 stone so far, no mean feat, good stuff.

Wine and carbs have always been my downfall so Inida and Neris is workling for me so far.

Hey wb foofoo, once you kick the drinking in the week habit it is sooo much easier. Mind you, right now am tempted to go home, neck a bottle of Champagne and call in sick tomorrow to avoid bitch meeting. but can't as am on a daily rate. And anyway, the children will want me and dh will say oh no, we have to get up in the morning and it'll all be there again tomorrow anyway so it won't remotely help. oh I'm so sensible.

anniemac, read the link on the last thread about 'why the scales can lie' - it'll make you feel better, really. and only weigh once a week and totally fugeddaboutit around your period.

My headache isn't getting any better and I can't concentrate at all on my work. I've made a few daft mistakes so far today.

can I reasonably call this 'feeling dreadful' and go home for the rest of the day?

porridge with half a teaspoon of utterly delicious Dorset Heather Honey in it

pack of philly lite with breadsticks
apple
small bowl baked beans

will have something at 4-ish I expect

posh dinner out

Hey all, just dashing through, DS at his shoutiest this morning, but wanted to say, Marina, will be thinking of you today - please let us know how it's gone when you can.

WWW and Enid, sorry to hear about the sunday/monday blues, though Enid am at the sound of your meal - duck and lentils - that's my kinda food... WWW, know just what you mean about the boringness. Finding mat leave is exacerbating this (though have just been sent some books to review which I'm reading when DS is napping and is cheering me up a bit - I am to discover that I am crap at not being at work). Hope you both feel better soon.

Took DS swimming this morning for the first time which was fab, though alas hardly counts as exercise

back later to post food as must avert incipient meltdown ...

Special K and s-skimmed milk
Salad of chicken breast, plum tomatoes, grated carrot and watercress
Pack of Go-Ahead slice things (one portion pack, not entire product!)
Apple
Lots of water
That sounds like a going-home situation to me Fanella, hope you feel better soon
Hello FooFoo, glad to see you back , hope no lurgy ensues
Also sorry work is so rubbish for so many posters (ureb's alarming scenario on last thread, eg). Mine is fine in itself with problems in the wider organisation, tbh. As manager I do far too much wider organisation
Www, I do understand about the "htf did my life end up like this" Saturday nights. Dh is a dear soul, also usually clean and fragrant, but also tends to munch crisps and generally wool-gather to an artery-popping degree.

enid

I couldn't do the India and Neris thing - need carbs - but would be interested in the 'How we got fat' bit - anyone want to precis for me?!

Marina - thinking of your Dad. Hope it has gone well.

WWW - think we all want some glamour sometimes and our Saturdays often descend into crisp munching, paper reading, telly watching, wine guzzling utterly boring and predictable nights! Have been thinking it would change for years but it never does. Hope your day improved though.

Enid - your supper sounds great. Quite fancy some duck myself.

JJ - I was talking to a young girl last week who is in Yr 10 so must be 13/14. She too has Perthes and had the operation 4 months ago (didn't like to press for details but it sounded like the hip joint was reshaped and a pin was inserted in her thigh). She is still on crutches but is increasing her walking daily. She can't believe how much better she feels and is delighted with her progress. She did a lot of gymnastics from a very young age and the pain she experienced was always attributed to that. Her father also had Perthes and had a similar operation many years ago but as it is not genetic it was not considered when they were trying to find out what was wrong with her.

DD has gone on her trip today. After a very late night (crisps, wine, film - yup same old stuff!) I woke at 4.30 having had very vivid dreams about it all. Couldn't get back to sleep so am feeling pretty crap. Work was also tedious and I haven't got to the gym since last week so am feeling bleurgh. DH out tonight so am aiming for an early night and will hopefully start tomorrow feeling brighter.

He's out of theatre but won't really know much until they bring him out of induced sedation later tonight
They are happy with how things went
Happiness just went through roof

Glad things went well marina, hope he has a good night. xxx

marina -

oh marina

that's brought a tear of joy to my eye!

xxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks compadres
I was on the landline bickering with dh about a missing blazer when my dsis txted me

lol!

xxx

Way to go Marina's dad!

Back later.

Marina So glad things are looking positive. Do update when you've time xxx

Sobernow, rofl at your Voltairean approach to staving off imminent global disintegration. We all need runner beans! Bad luck at the work fuck-up too - I hate that cold-sweat feeling you get when you realise you've done sth wrong [all-too-familiar emoticon]

Have had a fairly active day of it - swimming (though in the interests of accuracy it should really be called 'getting wet' - DS not allowing of lengths, or indeed taking feet off the bottom of the pool), walking into town to buy ingredients of tonight's dinner, wrestling DS into submission on the 73 bus. Knackered now; thankfully DP is home, so I've handed over and am about to go and cook salmon with rosemary and garlic and lentils for tea. Yum, hopefully. Lunch was a tuna sandwich, breakfast peanut butter on toast. Did anyone else read the thing about breakfast cereals in the Guardian Weekend? Put me right off my Special K ...

marina - thrilled about your dads op. I hope Denholm/William is not cheeking the nurses too much.

hello fanella, has your headache gone?

welcome back foo

sobernow - there's nothing old about gardening, it's classy and fashionable.

l&s - swimming gets better when you can plonk baby into one of those floaty-seat things, then you can swim lengths whilst pushing the baby along, you may get bingo wings from not using your arms but your legs will get fit!

I've just realised that I haven't had a glass of water all day . I can't believe it. I'm trying to make up for it now though. I've eaten tons of raw veg & fruit, croissant for breakfast, macaroni cheese with tomatoes for lunch and chicken curry, rice and naan bread for dinner.

I've done something peculiar to my hip or sacroliliac joint, the whole area hurts so much I can't tell what the problem is. And I was going to walk the dog with my Moron on tomorrow. Hot bath and early night and hope for the best I think.

Hello all, just a quickie before (dc's) bath (will try and catch up properly later with thread).

Marina that's wonderful - here's to a swift recovery period for him.

L&S - yes I saw that article. Yet another bloody food to feel guilty about giving to dcs/eating. I eyed ds's bran flakes (which he loves) with a mixture of horror and defiance this morning.

I am the thread freak who puts on pre-menstrual bloat weight and does not lose it after. But well done to all the 'losers', new and old. I have a party next weekend where I'll be seeing old friends and so am on an emergency bootcamp hardcore this week. And I dared bare my middle-aged veiny calves to the world (well work) today with a little help from St Tropez and a 'couldn't give a f**k cos who cares about what the middle-aged woman who changes shape weekly' looks like. And that is my mantra for this week.

Duchess - my headache has cleared up completely now thanks for asking..

I skived off left work early as I felt rotten and came home to bed. Didn't sleep though - watched a feel good film and just chilled. It was bliss.

Since my lovely little rest I've drunk lots more water, had a nice tea of chicken, potato wedges and sweetcorn, and taken my fecking mad dog out for a walk.

Marina - I'm not sure what's going on with your Dad but I'm really pleased whatever it was today went well.