I know everyone on MN claims not to have lines and wrinkles but ...but

[IsobellaandthePotofBasil]

Naomi Watts and Emma Thompson have loads but still look great so what do they use to make their lined and wrinkled skin look so good?

Asking for a friend 😊

Me too. 54, Eastern European olive complexion (oily) and no lines or wrinkles yet but I do have some sagging, brown marks and thinning of skin.

I’ve been using tret for two years and its been great, really evened out and brightened my skin tone. Getting a bit tired of using it now though as it feels quite a harsh thing to do so I’ve paused my subscription and will concentrate on cleansing, moisturising and sunscreen for a bit. We’ll see.

I sort of agree, however a sagging jawline is really ageing, I’ve compared a photo of myself from five years ago when I had a sharp jawline, compared to a photo today and the difference is marked, my lower face and neck sagging is really depressing, wrinkles add character, sagging just makes me look old.

I looked up this account. She looks very odd and frozen. So I googled and Chatgpt tells me she has had fillers and Botox.
Each to her own, but I really don't want to look like that. It's too polished.

Yes I firmly agree. A sagging jawline is far more ageing than a few lines and wrinkles. And much harder to deal with.

Hence the ‘I have no wrinkles at 60’ brigade probably still look their age as
ageing is more than lines and wrinkles.

The reason why Emma Thompson and others look good with lines on their faces is due to bone structure and a taut jawline. Whether that jawline is natural or has had some help, we don’t know.

I hate the sagging its like your face is melting.

I agree, that’s not just makeup.

I’m no expert but I can see she’s had botox and surgical face/eye lifts at the very least, and probably a lot more treatments and procedures that I’m not aware of.

For all that she still looks old (and I say that as someone of a similar age). I think I’d rather not bother.

@HolluschickieI am amazed she has had loads of interventions. Minus make up she could be in her 70s. My point was the power of makeup.

Yes I firmly agree. A sagging jawline is far more ageing than a few lines and wrinkles. And much harder to deal with.

It really is because the only thing that will work is a lower face lift, when I hold my face back to where it should be, the difference is incredible.

Yep! and post menopause is when it all went south for me.

I agree with others, Emma Thompson looks great because she has chosen a defined jawline over botox and eye lifts. Her hair and makeup ‘point’ upwards and her clothes are always ‘edgy’.

I’ll not be having anything done, much as I’d like to but if I could choose to address anything surgically it would be my jowls.

Gloria Hungerford tapes her neck and face she was talking about it on Loose women, I might get the scotch tape out and give it a go😀

I saw Emma Thompson on Graham Norton the other night and commented on how fabulous she looks. You're right OP, she looks her age, she has wrinkles, her face actually MOVES how it's supposed to, and she looks great! So many people on this thread are missing the point.

Does taping do anything for Gloria Hunniford though?

It sounds very uncomfortable.

I just googled Harriet Walter and she looks fabulous. Are you claiming your 90 year old mum looks better than that? If so, I need photographic proof.

I don't think wrinkles are unattractive - Harriet Walter is in her 70s and looks great. I don't get the obsession with looking 'young' (which often translates as a bit odd in older women who've had work) over looking good.

Thank you

Well it lifted her neck a bit and her face isnt too saggy she seemed happy with it. I mean you can still tell she's in her 80s it isn't taking years off or anything.

Another vote for tretinoin. I always get compliments on my skin, it’s wrinkle free and luminous. It’s prescription only and I started with Dermatica, but now I buy when on holiday in Turkey or from alldaychemist

Kate Winslet is another one ageing gracefully and naturally. I read recently that she said ignore what famous people look like on red carpets or events and that they will have had facials for a week in the run up and then spent 4hours in hair and beauty. I mean we would all look better if we had the time and money for that!

Kate Winslet’s absolutely had work done 🤣

No, like many British actors she’s wisely kept some movement in her forehead but she’s definitely had work done.

If only there was a product to shrink saggy skin…

I had a set of 3 trial sized Tatcha creams for my birthday. Perhaps they will work miracles!

There seems to be a high crossover of people desperate to tell us they have no wrinkles and people not being able to read the OP’s post on this thread.

@IsobellaandthePotofBasil if you are still here, I watched ET on the graham Norton clip posted above and I think a lot of what makes her look good ‘despite’ the lines is how confident she is.

There’s an Instagram account called AndBloom, which you might like - lots of women with lines and wrinkles and sagging who are confident and interesting.
The account owner is a photographer called Denise who posts lots of close face pics. She has lines that would give some on here an attack of the vapours given she’s barely 50, but the quality of her skin is beautiful and she posts make up tutorials and skin care sometimes.

The sunlamp programme was brought in post-war - along with giving out free codliver oil, orange juice etc. Most of the online photos of the sunlamp treatment seem to come from the 1950s.

I was brought up in a Fife coalmining town.

An old Daily Mail article talks of it going on 'until the '60s'. I certainly had it. Mum once volunteered to untangle all the goggles.

I'm not surprised about the skin cancer problem - that's something that's at the back of my mind as a concern.

I've found an old discussion about it another forum - some of the people there also had the 'treatment' in the 1960s.

http://dailymail.co.uk/lifestyle/article-2635599/For-years-doctors-prescribed-sore-throats-childhood-acne-How-sunray-therapy-ultra-violet-lamps-generation-risk-cancer.html

Well, I thought Kate Winslet was looking refreshingly normal (obviously beautiful with her confidence shining through) on Graham Norton last week. I was relieved to see some signs of crows feet and eye bags, it makes you feel less self-critical when you see famous women showing signs of aging.