Naff things in other people's fashion sense

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I know that it is a question of each to his own etc but what do you find naff in other people's fashion sense?

@RacheyCat

This is a very perplexing thread. So many people seemingly thinking they have to defend their style. I don't give a fuck if people think what I'm wearing is naff, because they're wrong and I look awesome. Fashion is subjective! If you're feeling defensive, are you 100% sure you actually like what you're wearing?

I think that there are people who are playing the game of style and fashion, and those who aren't. This thread was meant to be lightheartedly talking about those who are playing the game. Obviously if you've only got one arm and can just about drag on a pair of leggings, or if you live in a waterlogged farm and have to wade through a bog in welly boots, we are not talking or thinking about you. Equally, I don't think there's much point casting aspersions at the Boden/Joe Brown crowd, because those are clothes simply made for looking "nice" and the people dressing from there are also not really engaged in the game of fashion and style.

This thread should be discussing those who have opted in.

My choices: The Free People aesthetic; Stiletto heels: 1950's style

That would be fine if that's what people on the thread were actually doing, but many people aren't discussing just those who opt in. They're not taking about clothes or looks that are in fashion and whether they look naff, they're listing all sorts of things which are either deemed "unfashionable" or which aren't anything to do with style and fashion ar all. The people wearing these clothes or styles clearly aren't playing the game of fashion and style, plus in some posts it comes across as sneering at these people. Take this list as an example: Skinny jeans (soooo dated) especially spray on ones on boys.

Cold shoulder tops (nuff said)

Asymmetrical / graduated bobs.

Plum / deep red coloured hair.

Bench, Superdry, White Stuff, Fat Face, Millets etc style clothing (style vacuum).

Bretons with flowers and random designs on, all that awful floral, embroidered style free “mum”wear in general.
Just because I have a child I still enjoy fashion.

JOE BROWNS (why? Just why?)

Over filled lips and faces.

Michael Kors, DNKY bags (tragic)

Skin tight thin lycra that shows every detail of your body.

Crusty heels and toes in flipflops/sandals (vom).

SKETCHERS (I’d rather die)

POLYESTER CLOTHING! (primarni sells a ton of cotton, no excuse)

Most of these things are (I assume - I don't follow fashion and am probably deeply unfashionable myself) either unfashionable, or nothing to do with style and fashion (crusty heels and toes in sandals), so a sneery judgment is being made about people who have chosen not to opt in. Similarly the comment about using the same handbag with lots of different outfits.

Well indeed, @RichardMarxisinnocent. Which is why I said this thread should be discussing people who have opted in.

@RichardMarxisinnocent i agree with everything you said above. I found that list and similar childish and ignorant. Nothing wrong with opinions on fashion but that just came across as mockery to me and the fashion part was lost.

@RacheyCat but how do you differentiate between those who have 'opted in' and those who have not?

Interesting question popcorn - I’m not sure if I would be considered to have opted in or not.

@RacheyCat

Well indeed, *@RichardMarxisinnocent*. Which is why I said this thread should be discussing people who have opted in.

Apologies, I did see you had said should be discussing and I should have acknowledged that in my post.

@Notashandyta Do you know you have used an incredibly offensive word in your post?

@Notashandyta

This is the bleakest thread ever.

It's in style and beauty, where posters discuss style and beauty.

Clearly a lighthearted post that has been hijacked by cretins.

If you don't agree with a thread on style and beauty where posters are asked what they think looks naff, then don't bother clicking on it.

Style and beauty posters enjoy debating fashion, for good and bad. If you don't, why join in? And criticise the ladies who want to have a lighthearted chat about, you know, style and beauty on the style and beauty board...

Almost smacks of an aggressive demographic who want to make mumsnet a bad place to be...

Well you're clearly comfortable with being discriminatory - your attitude and language makes that clear @Notashandyta

You clearly object to 'lighthearted' ableism being pointed out.
Tough

People with disabilities don't always have the privilege of being 'stylish' and being sneered at for that by you and other posters on this thread, is frankly pretty unpleasant.

@notashandyta you might want to look up the incredibly offensive term you used and have your post removed!

Hideous fake, long, coloured fingernails.

RacheyCat
There seems to be some people who struggle to understand the difference between:
A) I think (insert fashion/beauty trend) is naff
And
B) I have an active dislike for anyone who wears (insert trend) and think all sorts of horribly negative things about them as people.

Or, they do understand the difference and just want to derail a lighthearted thread.

I do several of things that some people on here consider naff. Thankfully I understand that's them expressing their opinions about trends and not them making a judgement about me as a person.

None of you are looking good here

@LolaSmiles

RacheyCat There seems to be some people who struggle to understand the difference between: A) I think (insert fashion/beauty trend) is naff And B) I have an active dislike for anyone who wears (insert trend) and think all sorts of horribly negative things about them as people.

Or, they do understand the difference and just want to derail a lighthearted thread.

I do several of things that some people on here consider naff. Thankfully I understand that's them expressing their opinions about trends and not them making a judgement about me as a person.

@LolaSmiles What about the posters using offensive disablist language and those likening people with chronic illnesses to people who have superglued themselves into clothing? Where do they fit in your poster categorisation?

@LolaSmiles

RacheyCat There seems to be some people who struggle to understand the difference between: A) I think (insert fashion/beauty trend) is naff And B) I have an active dislike for anyone who wears (insert trend) and think all sorts of horribly negative things about them as people.

Or, they do understand the difference and just want to derail a lighthearted thread.

I do several of things that some people on here consider naff. Thankfully I understand that's them expressing their opinions about trends and not them making a judgement about me as a person.

No. Some people are just being downright fucking horrible.

meatester
Why? Because women have different opinions on style trends? Because it's fine to think certain trends are naff but don't you dare expthat view?

I wear my running leggings to the supermarket. Some people think it's naff. Who cares?
I think heavy makeup and the fake tan, huge brow trend is naff. Other people like it. Who cares?

WaltzingBetty
I've reported posts on this thread for attitudes to disability.

Even in the early pages people were straight onto telling people they're awful for discussing that they don't like trends.

@LolaSmiles

RacheyCat There seems to be some people who struggle to understand the difference between: A) I think (insert fashion/beauty trend) is naff And B) I have an active dislike for anyone who wears (insert trend) and think all sorts of horribly negative things about them as people.

Or, they do understand the difference and just want to derail a lighthearted thread.

I do several of things that some people on here consider naff. Thankfully I understand that's them expressing their opinions about trends and not them making a judgement about me as a person.

But the issue is that a lot of the things being talked about aren't "fashion/beauty trends". Only ever using one handbag isn't a trend, it's just something some people do. Polyester clothing or yellow raincoats aren't fashion trends, they're just things some people wear.

Discussing which fashion trends are naff would surely be something like "a particular style of top has become really fashionable, but I don't think it looks very good /flattering /I think it looks a bit naff". It's not "wearing raincoats /Fat face clothes is naff".

RichardMarxisinnocent
It's still a comment about fashion and beauty though.
Yellow raincoats was a trend for a while. They were everywhere. Joules did one, Fatface did one, and GoOutdoors was full of them one year I was looking for a new walking coat that i wear as a day to day coat, which is probably also a bit naff to some people. Does it really matter that some people think yellow raincoats are a bit naff?

One handbag with everything only stands out if the bag doesn't go with the outfit. People are allowed to think it's a bit naff.

I don't care for handbags much and am using a child-friendly backpack that's probably got dog slobber on the sides, so score low on the style front. Someone will think my backpack is naff. Does it bother me? No. They're allowed to think my backpack is naff, just like I'm allowed to think heavily monogrammed/branded handbags are naff.

It's a thread on a style and beauty board where people are discussing style and beauty. If people are happy with their style then it won't matter that someone else doesn't like certain things. We all like and dislike different things.

A lady never notices what anyone else is wearing and a woman wouldn’t judge.

The problem with lip fillers is most women don’t stop at the “you’d never know stage”

@RichardMarxisinnocent

Thank you! Was trying to articulate a response to that and yours is perfect.

So, no, I won’t cover up my 40 year old arse to suit random strangers Anyway, my arse is probably perkier than most 30 year olds

Can I just highlight that just because you think an item of clothing is naff doesn't mean you are sneering at the person wearing them. Often it's more about what I don't like on me if that makes sense. And again I wouldn't be remotely offended if someone thought my clothes or shoes were ugly.

@Onlinedilema

The bedroom slipper shoes you describe, they are shoes. It’s not new my dd has had some for a couple of years now. Very comfy and they look fabulous on her. I understand about the rain thing but they are a summer shoe, like any other flip flop or sandal. As far as shoes go my motto is if they feel good wear them.

They remind me of the 70s and Yootha Joyce in George and Mildred wearing similar with a polyester negligee

Yes I see the Yootha Joyce connection. I always wanted those fluffy slippers as a child but my mum would never buy me any 😢. The other thing I converted was one of those knitted doll toilet roll covers!!!

I wear what I wear, because I think it suits me. Sometimes I see people looking wonderful, and I compliment them. But I don't try to slot them into socio-economic slots as I do so. It is an aesthetic comment. I can admire an individual touch on an abaya, or a tattoo, or a full on going to Ascot rig. I like to compliment outfits which have been considered. I do get the point that if you don't have great mobility, then your choices are restricted, and I apologise fervently if I have ever transgressed and disparaged you, but I don't think I have. I spend too much time on S&B because I am visual. I love to see the pictures posted, and what people might be buying, and sometimes, it makes me think about new ideas... yes. I am nearly 65, and MN S&B is my favourite thread. I do get a bit depressed by posters who want to make everything about politics.