Naff things in other people's fashion sense

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I know that it is a question of each to his own etc but what do you find naff in other people's fashion sense?

@PattyPan

Plum / deep red coloured hair

Whenever people I know dye their hair like this it always seems to be when they are going through something! It’s like changing your fb profile pic to a childhood photo of yourself. Both say ‘I am not in a good place right now’.

My hairdresser accidentally dyed my hair plum once - it was meant to be more Auburn.

I was fucking mortified.

Felt like a long wait til she could get it fixed !!

@ScottsThots

Lip fillers. Yet to see a single person who looks good with them. Ridiculous.

I have lip filler. My lips are so thing without. I do think it depends on how they are used. Getting them solved a lifetime of insecurity for me.

@blisstwins your lips look so natural and you would never know. There's undoubtedly some ignorant posters on this thread.

[quote Popcornbetty]@blisstwins your lips look so natural and you would never know. There's undoubtedly some ignorant posters on this thread.[/quote]
@Popcornbetty Thank you so much. I read the first few pages and then just went back and got to all the ugly. I have started being open irl about my lip filler and the Botox of my 11s. I have crows feet and forehead wrinkles Inhave not treated, but the 11s make me look stern in a way I don’t like, and the lip fillers so improved my confidence. I went through a very awful divorce—husband left me for someone 23 years younger—and these tweaks were part of self care. I don’t think people should feel shame in doing what they need to feel good about themselves.

@blisstwins this thread is certainly vacuous. You look great and your face looks really young on the photo you posted. I'm sorry you've been though such a tough time and I'm a firm believer what goes around comes around. I completely agree with:

'I don’t think people should feel shame in doing what they need to feel good about themselves.'

We should all do and wear what makes us our best selves and what suits one person may not another. It is a tough enough world as it is without woman ridiculing other women's choices.
Hat off to you for doing what makes you feel better, i admire that so much.

What's naff is starting a thread judging other people. Would much rather have a horrible dress sense and be a nice person, than start a thread slating things people like, for fun. Wow. Mumsnet really is full of some bitchy women.

Tattoos and piercings.

What's exhausting is a lighthearted thread about style and beauty getting hijacked by people seeking to turn in into a lecture on class politics

But fashion is essentially anthropology. I lecture in this. Everyone has a reason for wearing something, even those who profess to be anti fashion. Politics, class, and sociology all play an important point in image choice.

Middle class tend to like natural fibres and no visible labels
Upper class don’t care.

People may disagree with me, but everything anyone wears is a symbol of their class, political beliefs, education level and income. To assume otherwise and that it doesn’t matter is incorrect.

@Violinist64

Tattoos and piercings.

I must just be Uber naff.

I feel people without tats an piercings really boring... Am I ok to say that? Or is it only allowed to slate the people with them?

@LST

And that's why it's naff.
People with tattoos and lots of piercings think it makes them look speshul and interesting.

It doesn't

Down yere, we understand wearing practical clothes. It's very rural and rains a lot, and lots of people have dogs or livestock that force you outdoors in all weathers. I don't think the OP started out inviting people to judge others' tastes. We commit fashion crime daily locally by wearing practical mismatched clothes. Occasionally, we resort to bailer twine to hold things together. But the TOWIE element of nails and tans and contouring looks peculiar/trying too hard. It's not a class judgement, because this is rural Cornwall... not Padstow and Rock. But the definition of stylish in most of Cornwall is laidback and pretty and a bit alternative, which doesn't discriminate on age or class or weight or colour... unless you want to disagree.

[quote Fairdosmun]@LST

And that's why it's naff.
People with tattoos and lots of piercings think it makes them look speshul and interesting.

It doesn't[/quote]
I don't think I look special and interesting. I couldn't give a flying fuck what anyone thought of me! That's the difference I think

You just said people without are boring, so logically you must think you're interesting...

Men in excruciatingly tight, rolled up jeans/chinos with brogues and no socks😬😬

@Fairdosmun

You just said people without are boring, so logically you must think you're interesting...

I was taking the piss... Obviously. My dp has no tats or piercings.

And having written the post above, I will also say that hitting the right note is as hard here as it is in Hackney or Salford or the West End. You really cannot buy style. Nice garments? Of course... But putting them together right to hit the sweet spot is why film stars have stylists. Money helps but for every person who spends a thousand, there's someone else who didn't, and looks better.

Groucho Marx eyebrows
See through leggings
Flesh coloured leggings
Short sleeved jumpers.. if it's cold enough for a jumper it's cold enough for sleeves.
Adults in Disney clothes
Long pointy talon nails
Any lip or face fillers just no you look like a mannequin
Tight track suit bottoms on men...I don't need to see the outline of your bits
And last but not least flowery dresses with white trainers.

@XingMing

And having written the post above, I will also say that hitting the right note is as hard here as it is in Hackney or Salford or the West End. You really cannot buy style. Nice garments? Of course... But putting them together right to hit the sweet spot is why film stars have stylists. Money helps but for every person who spends a thousand, there's someone else who didn't, and looks better.

My mum shops in second hand stores and looks amazing.

She has her own unique style which I really envy. I'm really boring, I dress for comfort.

I even had to take out my mid-life crisis helix piercing after a year because I couldnt't sleep on it!

I think how you dress is a form of creative expression - and some people like having fun with it - if I was a famous A-lister I'd definitely get bored of wearing "pretty" dresses on the red carpet and take risks with some absolute honkers!

Personally, I think it boils down to an interest in aesthetics and opinions strong enough to survive social media. I am nearly 65, love fashion and clothes in general, but wear wet weather gear and no makeup for my everyday life. Jeans, T shirts and a jumper in winter, under high performance walking kit. It's my life everyday, so I have nice beanies and jackets and boots (for walking, not la passegiata) and scarves to keep out draughts. If I had to go to central London for a big do of any sort, I'd be looking back over my 20 year old work wardrobe, fussing about what might fit. (the answer being: not much, flatteringly. ) But I would probably not buy anything new. I would hire an outfit now. I'd rather spend £80 to borrow something to wear once, and look stupendously right than fritter money on a not right £80 dress I'd never wear again.

@LolaSmiles It’s perfectly acceptable that you don’t agree with me. I will continue to call out classism wherever I see it though. It may be a big joke or ‘exhausting’ to you but it’s a huge issue which has real life consequences for lots of people, and it’s getting worse. I’ve never found snobbery something that is admirable in other people because, like I say, it does real damage
How patronising. What would we all do without a poster claiming trends that transcend different social groups are working class, whilst telling us all how clasist we are about working class people?

What's more classist:
A) people expressing their views on different fashion and beauty trends
B) posters who see certain trends listed and declare that people are horrible and classist against working class people despite working class covering a range of styles, and some of trh listed trends actually covering lots of social groups

I realise I am committing most of the fashion crimes mentioned here. I shop a lot on Ebay and charity shops to get the brands l like at the prices l like. These are Joe Browns, Seasalt, Fat Face and Marks and Spencer. I also like Sainsbury's TU. Good quality at decent prices. I wear cardigans and have a bright yellow summer raincoat from Seasalt. I love patent leather shoes and l usually wear Clarks or Hotter. My everyday handbag is a tan leather crossbody one but l also love Ness tartan handbags. I wear Alice bands. I suspect these choices say a great deal about my age and social values. Mumsnet goal awaits. There is no cure for me.

I mean gaol.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow
I agree fashion is anthology and people wear things for different reasons.
I just find the faux outrage 'eeeh you horrible classist bitches' thing to be quite silly when those doing it are actually showing their own lazy stereotyping of various social classes. It's hypocrisy.

I find the heavy makeup and over contouring to be a bit naff. I've seen more of it in students in more affluent schools than schools in areas of disadvantage. I've also got colleagues who are middle class professionals who buy into the Instagram glam fakery look. Amusingly the posters who feel the need to lecture us all on classism like to lazily argue that people disliking certain trends is somehow a sign they hate on the working classes which only tells us that they think the trends are working class.

Cats bum mouths on women who disapprove of other women for showing too much/too old/the wrong type of flesh.
Sneery smirks on women looking down at other women who shop at less expensive places than they do.
Spiteful glee on the faces of women who have managed to spot a hair extension, a tan line or (real or imagined) botox/filler on another women.....