🐌 Fantastic Skincare: Bear Shaped Pseudo Face Vibrators, Don't Ask us What They're For(eo) 🐻

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For those who are taking a peek and wondering what this all about, we mostly discuss a bit of advanced skincare here with a perspective of seeking out the right ingredients (rather than the latest new shiny product and all its empty promises) for our particular skin needs. Distinguishing the acid toners from the actives whilst avoiding the truly unimpressive and harmful ingredients with a hope to achieve a bit of anti-ageing, alleviate irritation and sensitivities with some idle chat in between. Newcomers are always welcome but please note the following:

Questions and asking for help on this thread is encouraged, however, we can’t give you a specific routine to follow and hope it works out for the best. There are no overnight miracles in skincare whether it be in the form of products or techniques. It’s about perseverance, understanding your skin, assessing its needs and responding to that in a diligent manner.

These threads were created to help those who want to learn for themselves. We’re a group of interested and invested skincare nuts happy to offer tea and sympathy and dole out advice. Everyone’s journey with skincare is different, what is universal and binds us is that through actually learning about the different active ingredients it helps us get to know our skin and help us adapt as it will change many times throughout our lives - with seasons, hormonal changes, ageing, genetics etc. It's in everyone's best interests to get to know their skin and to keep reviewing those changes with the confidence that comes from the gathered knowledge here. We really encourage you to spend the time reading through previous threads and linked info sheets that the many contributors have taken the trouble to share.

By no means are we experts, we're only a bunch of amateurs that can only respond by suggesting what we would do in your place, for any severe conditions please seek out professional help.

Ahem, and finally a little note on spending. I'm well aware these threads cause many to reach for their wallets and spend with wild abandon. There can sometimes be a bit of a frenzy surrounding the excitement around a newly discovered product or on the back of great improvements when someone reports back. This is all great, it doesn't however, mean everything that's a sudden miracle for one will be it for you. Usually, it's a light bulb moment for connecting the right skincare ingredient with an individual experiencing a specific problem. Take your time to mull over decisions and question whether it's right for you too. Skincare is highly individual, it's a slow game that should cost mostly in patience, input, education, and perseverance. Please don't make it cost you financially needlessly.

I am very slowly working on consolidating the gathered information from previous threads into easier to read formats but it’s slow going. I would suggest reading thread 1 and at the very least the following info sheets (provided they apply to you):

Where to Start

Basics of an Actives Routine

Skin Types vs. Skin Conditions Info Sheet

Anti-Ageing Info sheet

Adult Acne Info Sheet

Understanding Which Sunscreen(s) to Buy

Do I Really Need to Wear Sunscreen Every Single Day of the Year?

A Damaged Skin Barrier - Now What?

NEW SERIES:

So You Want To Buy A Retinoid - A Guide

Here's my much smaller stash for anyone that's nosy
(Elemental herbology was a TK maxx bargain)

Aldi are doing drunk elephant dupes at the moment (I do enjoy how brazenly they copy things) and I picked up the jelly cleanser today. None of the other options majorly appealed to me or were things I already have a good version of like vit c serum. I am really pleased with it and looking on the drunk elephant site it has most of the same ingredients. Drunk elephant is a bit pricey for me for basic stuff like a gel cleanser but thought I’d mention the dupe (sorry probably uk only etc)

I saw some of those dupes, they were definitely very blatant!

Yeah I’m not entirely sure how they get away with it but it’s something like a tenth of the drunk elephant price so I’m happy to give it a try.

Can I see a picture of the dupe? I don't know if they have it here but I don't shop there either so unlikely to ever see it.

I think the rules are it has to differentiate by X number of things, I'm sure they have a specialised lawyer review it all. Curious to know if it has fragrance in, I know in past dupes they've added fragrance when the original doesn't have any. I don't think it's illegal to replicate a formula so long as it doesn't have a patent (like the Skinceuticals CE Ferulic does).

I did see DE (the original) has now released some body products including an aha body lotion, not frighteningly expensive either. Slightly more than the one I use now but I wouldn't have to import that from the US so it would be a better choice with the whole shipping from afar business.

They look like this

To bad the jelly cleanser is not available online, I bet it won't be in the store either, I usually can't find what I'm looking for anyway.
But this reminds me of almost a year ago, I was looking on the website for something and I noticed they had a large beauty selection, so I compiled some pictures: on the left of each example is the aldi offering.

First Picture: 8 hour cream from Elisabeth Arden
Second Picture: Smashbox Photo Finish Primer
Third Picture: Garnier BB cream

Fourth Picture: Great Lash from Maybelline
Fifth Picture: Hoola Bronzer from Benefit
Sixth Picture: Pomegranate Bath Oil from Jo Malone

Seventh Picture: Masterpiece Max mascara from Max Factor
Eighth Picture: The're real mascara from Benefit

I actually laughed out loud when I read the name they came up with, Too Legit, but since then Huda beauty came up with a mascara called Legit Lashes.....

Thanks for all the pictures 😍

Interesting that they're even duping Garnier which surely isn't that more expensive. I mean, it may be twice the price but it's a similar price group, surely. I do find it weird that they seem to put so much effort into it and then it's poorly available, or is that the strategy, you come to Aldi with the hope of getting the beauty dupes (they always get a lot of press coverage) and you end up doing the weekly shop instead.

I think that's probably it, or you go to your food shop snd think "oh, garnier" and shove it in the trolley

Good point, these things are temporary "hot buys" and you have to be lucky or pop in the store as soon as they go on sale to grab them. In this case they were actually available online, but again, for a limited time. Probably is either to get people in the store, or sell them to people already in the store for food, by showing familiar packaging.

They don't make enough of them so they sell out and creates a hype.
Garnier is an odd one, yeah. I have no idea how they get away with it, but they did loose against Charlotte Tilbury. www.hellomagazine.com/healthandbeauty/makeup/2019081976655/charlotte-tilbury-legal-battle-aldi-product-dupe/
Probably the other brands don't care as much.

Interesting that they lost that case, that looks extremely similar though. They don't mention the damages won though, I doubt it's much and suspect CT sued to stop duping them in the future by showing they're litigious. But the coverage of that case reads like more PR for Aldi 😂

I do suspect it's mostly PR and there aren't much profits in it. It gets people in who wouldn't otherwise go there out of curiousity and it'll get regulars in sooner with FOMO and/or more often.

Oh I forgot, I bought these when they were on offer. Really nice cleansers

Hello, does anyone know a reliable website in UK where I can order tarte shape tape concealer? Thank you

(ordered direct from US for delivery in greece and after 6 weeks they concluded my order got lost....)

I've also ordered the same bunting face mask, sunscreen and light moisturiser to try. Didn't bother with the serums as using tret and azelaic acid anyway. I also like my existing cleanser (and believe it is similar to the bunting one).

I think QVC sold/sell the tarte concealer in the UK, Sophie.

Hi all!

I'd taken a break from this thread over the summer and then continued on as I tried to wrestle with my thoughts on being "influenced"
Not by you guys, here I've found an incredibly welcoming community with lots of great information and helpful friendly advice.

But in the wider, Internet circle, Instagram, YouTube. And all wrapped together nicely with 18 months of isolation (we were shielding our CEV child, thoughts on that are another thread)

I went into lockdown feeling unsettled after losing weight and the changes it had made to my face.
I kept structure in lockdown by following the same skincare routine I had followed for years, but the facial changes made me think I could do better.

It was like "if I focus on this I will stay sane and not think about other things", which worked well and was helpful so I am glad about it and don't think anything was lost.

But I think I was becoming very hard on myself, pores seemed huge, wrinkles were an issue instead of part of growing older. I was comparing myself to airbrushed, filler pumped, botoxed "influencers" who don't care about anything other than getting my money.

I felt watching these videos gave me peace in my day, time for myself, but it was making me feel increasingly unhappy with what I had. Which to be honest, isnt that bad and can stay that way with the products I choose not what are being shilled as vital

I saved and went for a consultation about botox and fillers, to fix my flaws, that the Internet told me I had...
I went to a very reputable clinic with a Dr. They recommended.
Forehead botox
Cheek filler
Lip filler .75ml
Botox on the outer corners of the lips to fix my downturned mouth I was born with (so me)
Botox around the eyes
A course of peels as I have expression lines on my forehead (because I talk with my face)
Total: £2,300

Which would last between 6-9 months as I'm on the thinner side.

My car isn't worth £2,300 (I don't care about cars, I could afford a better car, so it's not about spending money I can't afford on treatments)

I'm 40, I dont in anyway disagree with botox or filler - but I had talked myself into wanting this.
Taking a step back I think I dont need this yet
Loneliness and isolation had turned me into an introspective nightmare, focusing on how I look and not how I LIVE.

So that was a sharp shock, then summer came and it was fantastic for us, we switched off from social media and the Internet and spent a lot of time by the sea as a family.
When I came back to "real life" I started to be horrified at how introspective and vain (in a bad way, I will always remain a little bit vain) I had been.

So rather a ramble sorry....

Anyway
Still loving the bear that was a good buy, I find like some of you I can't use it too much mid face or it "collapses" my cheeks. My eyes are so improved and I think/hope my jawline is a little firmer

I've stopped using dermatica for the moment. I am using a313 on my face, and it has completely got rid of a very stubborn blackhead that had been there for years and no bha would touch...so delighted with that.

I've reordered and enjoying still the medik8 CEPURE as my vit c.
I was going to try beauty and the geek this time round, but I got a good offer for the medik8 and it was almost the same price so I stayed with what I knew.

Q/ I love cream cleansers and the more fragranced/smellier the better. I usually buy Clarins cleansing milk, but I know they have changed this recently. Has anyone tried it? Or have any recommendations for a luxury smelling milky cleanser for 2nd cleanse?

@70sduvet I like the beauty kitchen natural cream cleanser and also this one
https://beegood.co.uk/products/honey-propolis-cream-cleanser?currency=GBP&utmmedium=cpc&utmsource=google&utmcampaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=CjwKCAjwqeWKBhBFEiwABoXBi4sRWjcfvCAsZOWPgPDbC-LKXSCivfed-G7uDaUmyEoaoQ062rG3BoCvKMQAvD_BwE

The bee good mostly smells of honey
The beauty kitchen one says
Inspired by the smell of walking through a wildflower meadow. Brought to life with Abyssinian Oil, Rose and Magnolia.

Thank you Bo. I'll Have a look.

Your post was very thought-provoking 70sDuvet. Thank you for sharing. I think many people are susceptible to the kind of feelings you had and the experience you went through. It can be hard to age (relatively) gracefully in this day and age if that is the route one chooses you take.

What do you mean the bear can "collapse" the cheeks? You mean under the cheek bones?

Welcome back on here, Duvet. The Google Photos app sometimes haunts me with pictures from a few years ago and from that I can tell you, your face does bounce back a bit after the initial loss of weight, takes a bit (a year and a bit by my best estimation). It did in my case anyhow, I wasn't really that aware of it at the time, I was too overly introspect about my weird new body to notice tbh. My face didn't look aged so much but there was a hollowness to it that just looks different.

Those clinics can be scary places, I don't know if I ever mentioned it, I had to see a different derm once and they were in a semi-private clinic set up. She referred me to the private part for something small, a really stubborn PIE that could be zapped away for €50. It had been there for months so it seemed a sensible thing to just do while I was there that would take a few minutes but the whole consult process really put me off. They were trying to sell me all these things, peels with mandatory purchase of the matching skincare, laser courses, laser hair removal (despite me saying I already have that done elsewhere and am happy to stay there). It was an endlessly long consult (which they had the audacity to bill me for, I did not end up paying) and they basically refused to do the cheap small thing I was referred for if I didn't agree to all the other stuff. I really don't know what I'd have agreed to if I was feeling insecure.

Anyhow, in terms of nice smelling cleansers, you know how I feel about fragrance so I haven't used many. But, once upon a time, on smell and finish I really liked the Aurelia cleansing cream (it's in between cream and milk, light moisturiser consistency). It's kind of expensive but always on offer somewhere.

Sophie if I spend too long, and again I think this was me being too enthusiastic going over my cheekbones, I can look a bit drawn, and under my eyes looks slightly sunken. I think I thought it might zipp some plumpness back into my cheek area but it doesn't. I can sort of carve a hollow into the cheek by holding it under the cheekbone which works better for faking a bit of volume in my face.

Thanks for the recs cat and bo

And for the reassure after my "letting it all out"

Hi Duvet - Over the summer, we were in Pembrokeshire in a cottage that had quite a bit of land on it, so the DCs, 'camped.' We thought as the cottage was so remote, it didn't have wifi, so we played cards, board games and watched BBC1/BBC2. It was lovely other than DD1 and DS1 fighting all the time. We found out on our last day the internet was down .

I totally get what you mean, and tbh, have gone minimalist. Cleanser, Sunscreen, tret and moisturiser. I've been watching Dr Natalia Spiering who is a bit hardcore, including her love of Vaseline but essentially dismisses most of the high end skin care as marketing. I agree with some of the things she says but guess everyone needs to find their happy place.

One thing I am finding is that there just doesn't seem to be an acknowledgement about how much of an impact the pandemic took on everyone. The DCs mostly did online learning, although DD2 went to school in stages, and now we are all expected to simply get on with it and life is back to normal. had a parent/teacher conference yesterday to discuss DD2, and the teacher said she was quite far behind . Of course she is going to be behind with so much disruption.

End of rant

Anyone else need to let it all out, the podium is yours That's annoying about DD2 MrObama, surely she's not the only one for whom remote learning was a challenge.

I experienced the same thing with the Bear and using it around bottom of the eyes top of cheekbones with too high a setting, I just stay away from that area now.

I'll have to look up Dr Natalia Spiering but I've become a bit wary of the dermatologists who have seek an online presence. It's not something you can just do on the side as an added thing for your business, it's practically a full time job so I assume they're all angling for something.