Are these cool/old lady/something else?

[PrinceRogersNelson]

I saw these sandals last summer and loved them, but then thought they might in actual fact be awful and old lady like, but I am back looking at them again and cannot tell what they actually look like.

What do you think?

www.ugg.com/uk/kamile-leather-sandal/1092259.html?dwvar_1092259_color=ALM

Where do you draw the line between ageism and the simple truth that nobody wants to look like an old lady, that's just factual.
It's daft to suggest otherwise.

I do agree that we shouldn't use "old lady" as a bad thing (and I didn't in my post) but the fact that an older woman prefers Hotter is exactly what people are talking about when they say "old lady shoes". What it really means is "for people who aren't bothered about style" which does not apply to all old ladies at all, but it's shorthand for out of touch I suppose.

What is unstylish about the sandals OP posted is precisely that they are verging on the hotter-esqe. Clumpy and thick straps doesn't equal uncool, in fact the opposite, but you want to go less hotter look, more marni look IMO.

Not of course that any of this matters in the scheme of things. But YKWIM.

My 80-something mum for example would wear somehting like these and that's the look I find ugly (she'd be telling me I should get some as they're pretty ) but she is not fashiony - however I do know old ladies who are fashiony.

So it's not the right word and it is ageist but I know why people use it and what they mean. It's like if I said "old man slippers" you'd know what I meant :o

@Ihopeyourcakeisshit

Where do you draw the line between ageism and the simple truth that nobody wants to look like an old lady, that's just factual. It's daft to suggest otherwise.

At 64 it is factual to say I will shortly be an old lady. Not only do I not mind anyone saying that, I think it's delusional to pretend otherwise.

What I am tired of is seeing 'old lady' used to mean the antithesis of 'cool' or stylish as it is it is in the op (whether intentional or not) and in numerous posts on this thread.

Personally I'm quite partial to the odd clumpy, ugly shoe but I'm still very particular about what I like, and frankly I would prefer it if you all kept your unwanted footwear to yourselves and stopped trying to fob them off on us.

Jesus wept.

Will you stop with the ageist nonsense. You either like the sandals or you don't. Life is hard eough. We must at all costs be young?? Bullshit. Why beat women with the ageist stick, to something that (we hope) will happen to us all(ageing). Thoroughly unpleasant thread. Just stop.

What does 'old lady' even look like. How come I see plenty of 'young' women that look IMO not great, and the term 'young lady' isn't used in a derogatory way.

How do you want to be described when you are older?

As long as no blisters get them I have to be careful of blisters they cripple me.

I’m fifty two and they are highly frumpy. I’d anticipate elderly women with bad feet wearing them with American tan tights and the toe seams showing 😄

Old lady (late 40s here)

Awful
I have some really pretty ugg sandals
But the stuff they are pedalling these days are just UGLY.

I like them, which no doubt means they are 'old lady' as I'm in my 50's and favour comfy shoes I can walk in !!

I don't quite like them but I don't think they are old lady.

I think they're great, so much so I have just ordered some! Sandals are hard to get right IME. I used to live in saltwaters, but the flat soles led to an unfortunate limbo-dancing knee injury, so I'm always on the look-out for sandals with a slight raise to the heel that don't look like you ordered them out of the back of the Radio Times! These are similar to the Fracap sandals they sell at Toast, but the soles of those are still too flat for me - will have to eBay the pair I bought optimistically last year. I even find wearing my Birkenstocks for too long these days leaves my back aching

I am 46, though...

I'd say cool a few years ago, not so much now but still fine in a Clarks kind of way and they look comfy and they get good reviews. I like them.

God I miss going in to shops and trying stuff on.

@Readyorknot Exactly! 🙌

Old lady (and I'm 72 and wouldn't wear them lol)

it's shorthand for out of touch

Let's stop doing this then.

Thanks everyone for your input. Who knew these (seemingly) fugly shoes would get so much attention. At least they're not boring hey!

Apologies to those that I offended with the old lady category. It was meant to be short hand for sensible, comfy, but ugly and I did not in anyway mean "Is this something an older person would wear and therefore I won't". It meant more are they uncool, which I agree should not be synonymous with old lady. I shan't use it in the future.

@Sleepthief please let me know when you have them and what they are like.

I am mid 40's myself and tend to dress fairly casually, jeans and trousers with t shirts. Not a capri pant in sight!

These are them on feet. Wasn’t sure before but seeing them on I’m a no - I think they look cheap more than anything (I think it’s the sole)

Thank you op, so many posters double down when this is pointed out and it's really refreshing when someone thinks about it and takes the point.

Ok so the ones without a heel strap, are on websites everywhere, they look OK to me. How is it they look fine as slides - same sole, straps, everything else?

I’m fifty two and they are highly frumpy. I’d anticipate elderly women with bad feet wearing them with American tan tights and the toe seams showing

See "frumpy" was in my mind too but I didn't say that either because people get upset about it.

And FWIW you are right Bluntness because that's exactly how my mum wears her tan sandals - with tights!

NotMeNoNo those ones are gold, and the lack of heel strap takes them more into pool slide territory which is a lightly different vibe. I think that's why they look better in that pic.

As a lover of clothes I often wonder how it is that tiny differences can make a huge difference to how something feels and looks. It is odd.

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@HerselfIndoors

NotMeNoNo those ones are gold, and the lack of heel strap takes them more into pool slide territory which is a lightly different vibe. I think that's why they look better in that pic.

As a lover of clothes I often wonder how it is that tiny differences can make a huge difference to how something feels and looks. It is odd.

I agree it's interesting the effect of small changes in design. And what we are used to seeing.

I don't hate them. To stop them looking old lady you would need nails painted and quite a put together outfit

To be honest the old lady comments are more about the emphasis on comfort over style which definitely happens as you age! They look very comfy! Still wouldn’t buy them but I like the silver sliders posted above

Couldn’t wear them——- I need support. See! It just happens.... one week you’re frolicking about in cage shoes and the next it’s all bunions and plantar fasciitis and feet which seem to widen with every baby